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Author Topic: Kick too boomy? Snare too bright?
piperrox
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:38 pm reply with quote
hey guys. I was thinking of releasing this song.

lily loveless.mp3 - 11.75MB

but before i do, i would like to know if the kick is too boomy, or if the snare is too bright. i've been told that it is by a few, and i've been told that it sounds ok by others. I don't want it to deafen people in the clubs - if it ever does get played in the clubs - if these problems are prevelant.

Any opinion would be greatly appreciated!!

Thank you
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AL321
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:53 am reply with quote
Just had a little listen on my laptop. Can't really comment on the kick (laptop speakers), but the snare didn't really sound too bright to me. I don't really trust these speakers though, so i just played a couple of electro house tracks that are on my desktop, and yours sounds a lot brighter overall. A lot less body in the mids. The snare didn't sound any brighter than the hi-hats though. Can maybe give a better comment in an hour or two, when i'm at my monitors, if no-one else steps up to help.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:06 am reply with quote
Sounds really good on ath700 headphones. Kick not boomy and snare not too bright at all.

The only thing I'd suggest is to slightly variate the way the claps flam. Just need 2 or 3 different ones and your set Wink.

Nice track Thumbs Up!!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:34 am reply with quote
It sounds really good, except around 1:30-2:30 it does sounds like the kick is ducking the rest of the song bit too much. The stereo arp seems like it needs to be lower in the mix, and the sound that I interpret as the lead (fuzzy, portmanteau sound) isn't loud enough.

Other than that is sounds good, I'll show it to a friend of mine who DJs music like this and see what she thinks.
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piperrox
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:25 am reply with quote
omg! thank you guys for your responses. I will definately look into your suggestions. Glad you like the track Optomadic = ]

xybre, thanks for listening and for the advice. You think the distorted flute nneds to be turned up. it was actually lower than that, and i brought it up, thinking it was too loud now. but thanks for setting me straight ; ]
I really appreciate you showing it to your Dj friend.

Al321 - you mentioned there being less body in the mids than on other tracks. WHat would you reccomend i do to fill it out a little more?

After i get done tweaking this, i'm going to send it off to be mastered.

Once again,thank you for listening, and take care.
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AL321
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:59 am reply with quote
piperrox wrote:

Al321 - you mentioned there being less body in the mids than on other tracks. WHat would you reccomend i do to fill it out a little more?

After i get done tweaking this, i'm going to send it off to be mastered.


Hi again.
It wouldn't let me download this for some reason, so i just listened to the stream with my headphones.
Forget what i said about the mids. I can hear it a lot better through headphones, and it sounds nice to me. I can see why you were a little worried about the clap. It seems to hit hard around the 7k-10k area, or somewhere around there. Personaly, i would probably give it a little dip, a decibel or so, just to be on the safe side, and give it a little boost around 2k and 15k to compensate, but i'm probably just saying that on personal taste. I reckon the mastering guy could fix that, if he thought it was an issue. The little swoosh before the clap hits, would probably take much of the sting out of it anyway, even if it was a bit upfront, so i wouldn't lose too much sleep over it.
Nice track.
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piperrox
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:51 pm reply with quote
thank you AL321. I've been told that the mixing and mastering on the track could be better. I'm all for constructive ctirisism, but i had to disagree with the person's comment.

It does need mastering though, and other than the snare, i think that the mixing is pretty good. Anywho, thanks guys, for listening and for your advice!!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:48 am reply with quote
Yeah I need to check this out on my AKG-701s to be sure, I'd be ashamed if there was something wrong with the mid-side processing of these cheaper headphones which could be causing the lead to be quiet and the arp to be loud.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:37 am reply with quote
For me it's just okay
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piperrox
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:51 am reply with quote
fifou64 wrote:
For me it's just okay


what, the snare? The Kick?
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djgroovy
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:15 am reply with quote
Sounds good here.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:46 am reply with quote
sounds decent, what are u using for bass by the way?

thx losi
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rodgetkfp
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:51 pm reply with quote
You should definatly check the lower midrange of the kick, again.


And the snare ain't too bright.



Greetings,

Rodge
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tranel
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:59 pm reply with quote
Dang! When I saw this thread title, I immediately "heard" it in my head as the lyrics for a cheesy 80s pop tune by say... Kajagoogoo. Here goes:

Is your
Kick too boomy
Snare too bright
Keep the rhythm tight
We dance throughout the night
Ooooh!
I've got you in my sight

(backed by cheesy Rick Astley bass, DX7 bells and orchestral hits)


Sorry people, move on. Nothing to see here. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:48 am reply with quote
One thing you might want to consider is getting the 'plucked part' to 'move' through the use of a subtle LFO, or chorus, or something.

I can understand the longish 'intro,' and when it does actually 'start,' it sounds great. It's just that, after awhile the plucking begins to get old. If the plucking part were morphing in tonality, it might 'fix' that.
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