Zappa-esk goof-off
- KVRAF
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- 6160 posts since 29 Mar, 2003 from Location: Location
A few mins of...that sound.
http://home.comcast.net/~newdabranck/mu ... Papals.mp3
http://home.comcast.net/~newdabranck/mu ... Papals.mp3
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- KVRAF
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- 6160 posts since 29 Mar, 2003 from Location: Location
All white keys got me there, with just a sprinkle of midi editing.jancivil wrote:nice lydian lines
Thanks for listening.
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fateamenabletochange fateamenabletochange https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8029
- KVRAF
- 3059 posts since 13 Jul, 2003 from outer rim
that is a really cool sounding sitar like lead sound
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hivefleetmegalon hivefleetmegalon https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=202099
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- 178 posts since 1 Mar, 2009 from Satan's Hollow
Very nice-- I think FZ would've approved!
I am the musical equivalent of a brick...
- KVRAF
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- 6160 posts since 29 Mar, 2003 from Location: Location
Don't have 'Yellow Shark' but found a 'live' version on youtube! (not Zap himself)jancivil wrote:Zappa did a piece called Get Whitey, same dealo.annode wrote:All white keys got me there...jancivil wrote:nice lydian lines
Thanks for listening.
My solo sound models how he will play a series of notes i'll meekly call a scale...and he'll switch instruments as those notes are played. Clearly in 'Get Whitey'
I did something similar by using 4 different layered sounds. By chance and not by my design,they have slight differences to their velocity ranges. This is giving somewhat of the effect of different instruments picking up different notes.
I have done this by design in the past and has worked out extremely well.
These 3 sounds and the 'noises' I combined just by chance. It sounded like a Zappa lead sound, so I gave it a go.
- Pettinhouse 'classical guitar'
- Pettinhouse classical guitar 'noises'
- Kalimba (marimba would be the Zappa choice)
Above in Kontakt
- Native Instruments - FM7 - MW Boost (factory preset bank)
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- KVRAF
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- 6160 posts since 29 Mar, 2003 from Location: Location
Thanks for listening hivehivefleetmegalon wrote:Very nice-- I think FZ would've approved!
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- KVRAF
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- 6160 posts since 29 Mar, 2003 from Location: Location
Hi fate.fateamenabletochange wrote:that is a really cool sounding sitar like lead sound
I explain it above if you want to have a screw around.
Thanks for stopping in, and thanks for the compliment.
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fateamenabletochange fateamenabletochange https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8029
- KVRAF
- 3059 posts since 13 Jul, 2003 from outer rim
ok, cool. Ends up that maybe different synths tend to have a different default velocity sensitivity, or so it seems, play a bunch together, and a bit harder will trigger some part or other, much softer will bring something else to the fore.
- KVRAF
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- 6160 posts since 29 Mar, 2003 from Location: Location
I listened to it again, and i'm convinced i'm a nucklehead for sure. I said it had difference velocity ranges, but it does not. The few things that sound like it, happen for other reasons.fateamenabletochange wrote:ok, cool. Ends up that maybe different synths tend to have a different default velocity sensitivity, or so it seems, play a bunch together, and a bit harder will trigger some part or other, much softer will bring something else to the fore.
But since your interested in that velocity range effect, the least I can do is answer any questions you might have on it.
here's one time I REALLY set it up for multiple velocity range layers on a single keyboard. (no keyboard splits either and I played this whole thing in one take, live.)
Here's an example. (the last big washout at the end was added on later.)
http://home.comcast.net/~newdabranck/mu ... .part1.mp3
I forget how I did it, it was a while back...I can find the cubase project and let you know later.
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- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
That technique goes back to early or even pre-baroque ensembles and is known as hocketing.annode wrote:Don't have 'Yellow Shark' but found a 'live' version on youtube! (not Zap himself)jancivil wrote:Zappa did a piece called Get Whitey, same dealo.annode wrote:All white keys got me there...jancivil wrote:nice lydian lines
Thanks for listening.
My solo sound models how he will play a series of notes i'll meekly call a scale...and he'll switch instruments as those notes are played. Clearly in 'Get Whitey'
I did something similar by using 4 different layered sounds. By chance and not by my design,they have slight differences to their velocity ranges. This is giving somewhat of the effect of different instruments picking up different notes.
anyway, good job
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fateamenabletochange fateamenabletochange https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8029
- KVRAF
- 3059 posts since 13 Jul, 2003 from outer rim
sonic seeds sounds really cool... really does sound organic, growing and dying growing and dying
- KVRAF
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- 6160 posts since 29 Mar, 2003 from Location: Location
Thanks fate!fateamenabletochange wrote:sonic seeds sounds really cool... really does sound organic, growing and dying growing and dying
Yes..it is very organic sounding. I'm proud of that.
But like I was saying, it's all a single performance on a single keyboard. Depending on how easy or hard you press the keys, results in the selection of different velocity layer ranges comprising of different synths or sample sets.
I'd like to try setting another one up one day...but it is like choosing the colors you want to use to make a painting.Takes time.
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fateamenabletochange fateamenabletochange https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8029
- KVRAF
- 3059 posts since 13 Jul, 2003 from outer rim
Cool.I use a similar technique, try mp3 'deepseastar' one page back here if you want