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how to use reason as a vst?

VST, AU, etc. plug-in Virtual Instruments discussion

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madboyit
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Postby madboyit; Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:19 pm how to use reason as a vst?

can anbody tell me how to use reason as a vst in cubase 5
without using reason rewire ? :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
A.M. Gold
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Postby A.M. Gold; Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:33 pm

Man, you are a happy guy. :)
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Postby Ingonator; Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:50 pm

madboyit wrote:can anbody tell me how to use reason as a vst in cubase 5
without using reason rewire ? :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

I guess you could wait until Reason v10 for this feature... :o :wink:

ReWire seems to be the only possible way at the moment.
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Postby randyandyvandaman; Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:52 pm

Run two separate computers and soundcards/breakout boxes.

Reason on one and Cubase on two.

The output of Reason goes into input of Cubase.

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Postby jazztard; Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:45 am

Simply take the Reason code and wrap it using the vst SDK and - presto - you have ReasonVST!


... of course, you'll need to study a lot and code a lot, and the whole process may take a while, too. But that's the shortest way to having what you want!
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Postby A.M. Gold; Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:48 am

This all begs the question: what's wrong with ReWire?
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Postby jazztard; Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:29 am

A.M. Gold wrote:This all begs the question: what's wrong with ReWire?


Can you draw automation for Reason instruments in Cubase? Can you freeze Reason in Cubase? Etc.
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Postby risome; Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:45 am

No the audio from reason is routed into cubases mixer
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Postby A.M. Gold; Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:50 am

jazztard wrote:
A.M. Gold wrote:This all begs the question: what's wrong with ReWire?


Can you draw automation for Reason instruments in Cubase? Can you freeze Reason in Cubase? Etc.
Don't know, but I'm assuming the answer is no.

Actually, come to think of it, I did know about things like no host-saving of settings through ReWire because I used to lamely run Giga 3 through it. You're right, it sucks.

I don't think Propellerhead is too worried, though, since they sort of have their own host now that plays real friendly with Reason.
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Postby megadeth; Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:14 am

OP answer : Rewire is the only way, and Reason will never run as VST (because they don't want to and oblige you to use Rewire).
So you will get two projects to save, extra wiring and more...

If you speak about Record to mix Reason tracks, it is not a VST host.
So in fact, you need Reason, Record and another DAW rewired to them to get VST support.Don't even dream about VST support inside Reason/Record.
What a simple work flow...

That's the reason ;) why i left Reason for a long time.
We live in the 21st century, not the 80's.

And if you want DAWs running as VST, i will say Usine, FL Studio, EXT2...
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Postby A.M. Gold; Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:48 am

Reason sure is cute, though.
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Postby heroshima; Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:06 am

[quote="A.M. Gold"]This all begs the question: what's wrong with ReWire?[/quote]

some thoughts;

rewire is proprietary propellherheads, and is only in 32bit. This is a serious drawback and it comes to show the problem of proprietary closed systems.

64 bit is not a novelty in any stretch of ones imagination. They keep releasing a new reason every 1 1/2 years (incl. their hybrid Record), yet they drag their feed on Rewire 64bit (clearly there is a hidden agenda; Record!). Always this is the drawback of all closed systems (in particular, once they get a resonably large market share)

In the end i decided to give Reason a rest, precisely because of them constraining of Rewire.

i used to love Reason, but with the 64bit constraint i realized its hard to justify to hold back on 64bit DAW, etc.
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Postby rifftrax; Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:04 am

can you imagine how much money they might make if they released individual modules as vst plugins?? CHA-CHING

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Postby Igro; Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:38 pm

rifftrax wrote:can you imagine how much money they might make if they released individual modules as vst plugins?? CHA-CHING

I know I'd buy dr. rex, nn-xt and thor in a heartbeat.


But who will buy reason then?
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Postby ObiK; Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:49 pm

A.M. Gold wrote:Man, you are a happy guy. :)


Til he finds out he can't use Reason as a VSTi. Then it'll be all :( :( :( :( :(
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