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Multi processor support differences in various hosts

Plug-in hosts and other software applications discussion

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Fritze
KVRAF
 
1716 posts since 13 Aug, 2011, from Berlin

Postby Fritze; Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:36 pm

Thanx for the answers. I think I will have to test it in great depth. No way around that. Sigh.
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Aiynzahev
KVRAF
 
2915 posts since 29 Jun, 2011, from USA

Postby Aiynzahev; Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:23 pm

Hi guys

I'm going to build myself a PC very soon. At first I thought id get a dual core i3 to replace my core duo. This is because I use Studio one and they say that you want to disable turbo boost anyway which the i3 does not have so I thought I would save some money. However my options are multi-core or dual core. AMD bulldozer can give you 8 cores for $199 and the i3 was about $130 so when its all said and done that could potentially be a huge increase of power for $70.

I can switch to Reaper if it makes better use of the cores than Studio One.

Am I looking at this right?
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Aiynzahev
KVRAF
 
2915 posts since 29 Jun, 2011, from USA

Postby Aiynzahev; Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:30 am

I can run 5 instances of Diva with a certain intensive patch in Studio one and in Reaper, however in Zynewave 3.0 I can run 8 before it chokes up.
Aiynzahev-sounds
Resonance Sound
Sound Designer - Soundsets for Spire, Zebra2, Massive, DIVA, Sylenth and others
audiojunkie
KVRAF
 
2681 posts since 18 Apr, 2002, from Ogden, UT

Postby audiojunkie; Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:06 am

Aiyn wrote:I can run 5 instances of Diva with a certain intensive patch in Studio one and in Reaper, however in Zynewave 3.0 I can run 8 before it chokes up.


I'd be interested in knowing what the general consensus is for CPU usage of Reaper vs Zynwave's Podium. I've always heard that Reaper was the lightest DAW available. In fact, I've seen threads where Reaper supposedly beat energyXT CPU-wise. This is the first I've heard of Podium being even more efficient. I am always on the lookout for a great quality DAW that is extremely efficient. Anyone else have both of these Daws and can compare them both?

--Sean
JoaCHIP
KVRist
 
54 posts since 1 May, 2006, from Somewhere cold and dark

Postby JoaCHIP; Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:35 am

I never saw any mention of Buzz in this thread, so I'd like to add that Jeskola Buzz (a tracker) is slowly getting better and better at using multiple CPUs.
glokraw
KVRAF
 
5113 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Postby glokraw; Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:09 pm

chacka wrote:Very interesting that Reaper's competitor's mostly still didn't manage to get something similar going. If everything in Reaper would be on that level it would be very very easy to stay with Reaper.

Little coincidence that Logic and Pro-tools move closer and closer to
Reapers price range and hardware requirements, as Reapers feature set
and ease of use continue to improve. :)
hibidy
KVRAF
 
40993 posts since 20 Dec, 2005

Postby hibidy; Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:17 pm

Pro tools? Weren't we just ragging on them for OUTRAGEOUS prices/upgrades?
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mandolarian
KVRAF
 
2536 posts since 2 Feb, 2005, from Raincoast of Grayland

Postby mandolarian; Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:07 pm

That was so last week - this week we're ragging on Reaper for being such a great deal! :hihi:
perception: the stuff reality is made of.
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Aiynzahev
KVRAF
 
2915 posts since 29 Jun, 2011, from USA

Postby Aiynzahev; Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:48 pm

Zynewave Podium is very good, I printed out the (long) manual and was quite surprised really how fully featured it is. It is also very logical. It also seems to be the most efficient with my last test.
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Resonance Sound
Sound Designer - Soundsets for Spire, Zebra2, Massive, DIVA, Sylenth and others
UltraJv
KVRAF
 
5949 posts since 30 Dec, 2004, from London uk

Postby UltraJv; Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:55 pm

I find it hard to believe that any host can run 3 more active instances of a vst than another. It must be due to the way resources are being used on that plug. ie Podium probably switches something in the background with inactive voices? Similar to some hosts CPU saving feature?
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Aiynzahev
KVRAF
 
2915 posts since 29 Jun, 2011, from USA

Postby Aiynzahev; Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:13 pm

Well the set up is hardly scientific, but I load the plug in with the same preset 8 times and make them all play at once. I can only do this with 5 instances on the other 2 daws.
Aiynzahev-sounds
Resonance Sound
Sound Designer - Soundsets for Spire, Zebra2, Massive, DIVA, Sylenth and others
audiojunkie
KVRAF
 
2681 posts since 18 Apr, 2002, from Ogden, UT

Postby audiojunkie; Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:14 am

Aiyn wrote:Well the set up is hardly scientific, but I load the plug in with the same preset 8 times and make them all play at once. I can only do this with 5 instances on the other 2 daws.


This is what I find so interesting! :-) I'm always looking for the most efficient DAW, and up until reading your posts about Podium, I've always been left with the impression that Reaper was the lightest DAW around.

--Sean
hibidy
KVRAF
 
40993 posts since 20 Dec, 2005

Postby hibidy; Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:49 pm

UltraJv wrote:I find it hard to believe that any host can run 3 more active instances of a vst than another.


It's up to you. What purpose does it serve to blindly say it if the person isn't experiencing it? After all, when someone mentions this they mostly are talking about the EXACT SAME SYSTEM ;)

You want the truth? I wish I could use studio one. I can't. I've had to move on.
hibidy
KVRAF
 
40993 posts since 20 Dec, 2005

Postby hibidy; Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:49 pm

audiojunkie wrote:I've always been left with the impression that Reaper was the lightest DAW around.

--Sean


It has been on my system. Ymmv
UncleAge
KVRian
 
1312 posts since 11 Jun, 2005, from Phoenix, Arizona

Postby UncleAge; Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:19 pm

audiojunkie wrote:I've always been left with the impression that Reaper was the lightest DAW around.

Depends. Back when I was using Reaper and Podium regularly, I noticed they would excel at different things. By that I mean that sometimes I could get more instances of a plugin in Reaper and other times it was the reverse and Podium would handle more instances of some other plug. But it was never a huge difference really. I remember Fritz (dev) explaining to us a while ago why things worked the way they did. It was pretty much the same explanation that ttc gave earlier in this thread, except ttc went into greater detail.
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