Well Thrillogy in Kontakt (http://www.cfa-sound.com/wp/reload-01-virusti/) can be smaller.
The 7 GB mass comes to the 2 included versions:
MULTI(3,6 GB)
- wav
- exs
- sfz
- nnxt
- halion

NKI(also 3,6 GB)
- just nki(monolith with script)

So you just can only use the nki version and save 3,6 GB diskspace.

Not only true but also the only appropiate answer on the millions of threads like this.

You know old guitars with old specs sound much better than the new ones. Same goes with software

Ohhh I see............

The synth in the 2nd example sounds awesome. The Z3ta sounds like a toy compared to the Virus. I bought Z3ta for 20.00. It's fun to get ideas from, but I can't imagine it hitting the dance floor.

When Sylenth1 first came out I sold my Access Virus Indigo because Sylenth1 sounded as good if not better than the Virus Indigo. I know at least 10 people who have sold their Access Virus synths because of Sylenth1.

A dual filter architecture is ihmo not that useful when cascaded serially, even less so when no dedicated envelope is available for the second filter. If the second filter is kept at a static cutoff is just serves an as EQ, which means lots of wasted CPU for a softsynth (as each voice has to be processed separately). The parallel case is more interesting, but here DUNE can do 8 things in parallel, and with different envelopes, which is a lot more.

Richard

True, the more is not equal to the better. But sound quality has 2 important factors:
1. the quality of the single components the sound is created from
2. the available "modules"/components and (routing) possibilities for creating the sound

regarding point 1: did did not do a direct comparison, but from what I hear in demos it does not appear to me that a virus has better quality. I really can't get why everybody is so absessed about the virus sound. just a soft-synth wrapped in hardware.

regarding point 2: here z3ta+ is a clear winner. It might like one or the other possibility of a Virus, but it offer 10 other things the virus does not offer.

And it's very true, a z3ta+ is not a virus clone. Imo it's one of the best soft synths and definitely very feature-rich. A much better candidate for a reference synth than a virus.

cheers, akj

ps: you did not have to delete your z3ta+ v1 when you got your V2. you can still use V1 if you prefer the sound. And just a tip: try disabling oversampling for some patches. sometimes a sound with aliasing is much better.

I did the same.


Actually I had Sylenth before I bought my Virus Ti.


Sylenth can't do everything a Virus can, not by a long way. But if you're looking for that virus dirt for dance tracks then Sylenth pretty much nails it.

Plus you can have as many Sylenths open as you want

Well, don't forget split mode. It's just some of the more interesting sounds I've made are by running through a LP/BP or HP configuration and with HP/BP you have to be very careful with freq & Q.
It has to be open on the LP, while in the BP/HP it must be more closed, and the Q can't be too open on the BP/HP or you get feedback.
@Richard: Is this why you chose to go with the chorus/phaser combo, or was it a space issue?
What I see on Z3ta's Effects page is a lot of wasted space. I like the Routing tree, but I also like the drag & drop of DUNE(very innovative IMO).
But in Rapture you have 3 Fx Processors to run signal through and you can choose precisely what effect you want. I think Z3ta 2's effects page is not thought through. Keep the Distortion, keep the EQ, but make the Chorus/Phaser, the Delay, and the Reverb, FX 1/2 & 3 and have a dropdown box with a choice of ALL of these.
Thank you, that's my humble two cents.
Maybe I will try to do that preset in Rapture...

If they weren't labeled I highly doubt you or anyone else could tell the difference.

actually only blind tests will show valid results. but even then: it depends a lot on what kind of sounds you choose to compare and how talented the patch designers are...

actually I do not care too much how the z3ta+ comapres to a virus. I just wonder why people constantly make this comparison. And, as said, I any case z3ta+ should be the reference, since it has the more powerful engine...

OK, try it.

I think the reference is basically what you prefer...most people if not all are not objective when making these types of comparisons. Just use what you prefer...

people argue about the Virus being software in a box but the software sounds da** great. I (and I am sure many others) would buy again if I had to.

Sylenth1, Dune, Diva, Z3ta+ all sound great as well (maybe not as great as a Virus TI....just joking )....you cannot go wrong either way. In my neck of the woods...the Virus is still better all around but I understand you do not feel that way! Enjoy Z3ta+ and keep making music...

Zeta2 is a great little synth. Excellent value and a really rich solid sound. I also don't care how it compares to a Virus. Half the appeal of a Virus would be the well built hardware and nice keyboard etc.

I think the Dune demos sounds a little bit one dimensional in comparison to Zeta or Virus, don;t know if it's the filters or the fx... but thats how the examples come across (haven't tried the demo as I didn't think it offered anything I didn't already have.


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