Latest News: u-he updates all their plug-ins
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what a crazy-ass joke
insane ---- midi retrofit |
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aMUSEd wrote: nBeat wrote: GruvSyco wrote: You should build it into a "real doll" and a keg and espresso maker. You could bill it as the most fun you could have with a synth. I did a search on "real doll". No substitute for a Real Hamster: http://www.realhamster.com/ if I said that link is full of awesomesauce, would that be wrong? (for the record I don't really use that term) |
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| ^ | Joined: 01 May 2002 Member: #2656 Location: Kalispell, MT | ||
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I was using a trial of Arturia Minimoog before and almost decided to purchase it because I liked its warm sound and the limitation to the most important functions (I'm trying but can do pretty much nothing besides tweaking presets, haha).
Yesterday I was looking around for some alternatives and found U-He Diva. Truely the best thing that could happen to me. Now I got even more sounds (especially for nice pads), a far better interface, expandle windows, a dongle free software, a good userbase and as far as I can judge yet the code is well written with really complex algorithms - for a lower price. Couldn't believe that. Just looking forward to the promised multicore support, my notebook (i5 / 4GB RAM / bad cooling) is running at 55% when just two instances of Diva are running in a project at second lowest quality. I can handle that for the love of the quality and guess this won't be a topic in summer anymore. Seeing I missed the intro by just one month does hurt a little. But still, I'm really happy. Seems like a good deal for my first synth ![]() |
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| ^ | Joined: 15 Jan 2012 Member: #272957 Location: Germany | ||
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Thanks Phaze!
Multicore looks promising, but it's still a hell of a lot of work, and we don't know yet if it really pans out. Our internal (working) multicore version just so gets twice the number of voices out of 8 cores. We're looking into many possibilities to gain speed though. There's a tiny chance for an algorithm that sounds almost divine, at a fraction of the cost. This needs to be investigated. And of course there's GPUs, AVX and what not, which as of yet is rather experimental or hypothetical as a viable solution. |
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| ^ | Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Member: #3542 Location: Berlin | ||
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First, i want to say how much I love Diva. She sounds fantastic.
I'm eagerly waiting for multicore-support thought, as she sometimes put my super fast computer on its knees in Divine Mode. I'm really looking forward that "almost Divine" mode too. Urs, I have a question about the several accuracy modes : IIRC, oversampling occurs when using higher accuracy, right ? If so, is that oversampling dependent on the host sample rate ? Or do Divine mode sounds the same whether the host sample rate is in 44,1kHz or 96kHz ? I'm used to worked in 24/96, but if Diva in Divine mode sounds the same at lower sample rates then I may switch to 48kHz or so to gain some CPU resources. Thanks ! PS : I'm not in the studio so I can't test it myself yet. |
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| ^ | Joined: 15 Feb 2012 Member: #275141 Location: France | ||
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Interesting to see the thread about the new Tone 2 synth. There is a short FAQ posted and the third question is:
Q: Will Tone2 Saurus have those fancy 0-delay filters? |
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pdxindy wrote: Interesting to see the thread about the new Tone 2 synth. There is a short FAQ posted and the third question is:
Q: Will Tone2 Saurus have those fancy 0-delay filters? Haha yeah! I chuckled a bit at it ---- Mulab-MUX-Diversion-TX16Wx-SKNOTE-Charlatan-Valhalla-GordonSmith-YamahaTHR10-Trackspacer-TheDrop/Glue-Drumaxx-VOS-DC8C [i5 2500K @ 4,3GHz] [8Gb DDR3] [200Gb+ SSD][M-Audio Delta 24/96 PCI] |
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Crackbaby wrote: pdxindy wrote: Interesting to see the thread about the new Tone 2 synth. There is a short FAQ posted and the third question is:
Q: Will Tone2 Saurus have those fancy 0-delay filters? Haha yeah! I chuckled a bit at it me too... Diva is shaping the discussion |
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| ^ | Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Member: #56776 Location: in the wilds | ||
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No worries. Many filters have been 0-delay for a long time, even MFM 1.0 had them, back in 2002.
Diva however has 0-delay-feedback-filters. |
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| ^ | Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Member: #3542 Location: Berlin | ||
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Urs wrote: No worries. Many filters have been 0-delay for a long time, even MFM 1.0 had them, back in 2002.
Diva however has 0-delay-feedback-filters. ---- Back from the dead - Sorry if I didn't answer your mails/PM/whatever during the last few months. I hope everything will be back to normal soon. Life can take some shitty turns sometimes. |
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| ^ | Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Member: #98170 Location: Wiesmoor, Germany | ||
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Alright, good to hear stuff is in development So can anyone guess how much I would benefit from upgrading 4GB DDR3 RAM to 8GB DDR3 RAM and replacing 32bit Ableton Live with a 64bit DAW? (in case that info is needed: µTonic drums + subtle delays require 15% cpu load, Win7 64bit, i5 430-M (only one core used yet), 7200rpm HDD, network disabled etc. and I use the Allen&Heath Xone:DX controller via USB as my soundcard) CPU load: almost the same / -10% / -20% / -30% / -40% / -50% / -60% ? Just would like to know if it's worth a try, the upgrade itself would be cheap. My guess would be <20% but I actually have no idea .. |
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I suppose that it has to be expected that one day some developer will come along claiming that 0-delay-feedback-filters were doable with "low cpu" with any whatever "different" method, but still preserve analogue-style non-linear elements, self oscillation and oversampling. But alas, there's no way around heavy maths that comes at a high cost. See UAD Moog filter for reference - biggest cpu hog on my UAD2.
I'm considering as follows: We would publish a formula of a popular open source filter in zero-delay-feedback form and unoptimised but working code. We will also post our heavily optimised implementation as closed binary in a plugin, along with a test scenario. We will then challenge any developer to implement the same formula within a set margin of accuracy and means (SSE etc.) in a significantly faster way. If they manage to make it use less than a third of cpu on the same data, then I'll start believing in methods for low cpu versions. |
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| ^ | Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Member: #3542 Location: Berlin | ||
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phazedown wrote: Alright, good to hear stuff is in development
So can anyone guess how much I would benefit from upgrading 4GB DDR3 RAM to 8GB DDR3 RAM and replacing 32bit Ableton Live with a 64bit DAW? (in case that info is needed: µTonic drums + subtle delays require 15% cpu load, Win7 64bit, i5 430-M (only one core used yet), 7200rpm HDD, network disabled etc. and I use the Allen&Heath Xone:DX controller via USB as my soundcard) CPU load: almost the same / -10% / -20% / -30% / -40% / -50% / -60% ? Just would like to know if it's worth a try, the upgrade itself would be cheap. My guess would be <20% but I actually have no idea .. The RAM has no effect on Diva, I'm afraid Dunno about 64 bit... twice the registers, but more memory consumption... hard to say... |
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| ^ | Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Member: #3542 Location: Berlin | ||
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Urs wrote: No worries. Many filters have been 0-delay for a long time, even MFM 1.0 had them, back in 2002.
Diva however has 0-delay-feedback-filters. And there we have it I must say out of the 4 filters, so far my favourite has been the Multimode filter, can really get some lovely thick solid tone out of that thing. |
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