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nix808
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:05 pm reply with quote
I think you have the right idea with routing the pitchbend CC out, but
If you want to experiment with resampling, you could search-
'granular pitch shifter'
in the user library, I got 500 + results.

Hope you can find something that works for you
I think it will be a kinda lo-fi sorta result though.

If u still want to try the MIDI way--
You can use another MIDI cable other than Maple,
there is MIDI Yoke and LoopBe. I'm sure LoopBe is 64-bit, but I couldn't get it working last time I tried.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:25 pm reply with quote
but my biggest not surley thing is if it will be electronic pitchbend(no need to controll it via midi pitchbend whell manually) isnt this difference betwen resampling and my pitchbend cc out?
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nix808
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:03 pm reply with quote
We should be able to figure it out so you don't need to contol the MIDI pitchbend with pitchwheel.
It can be controlled with an LFO, sure.
But the granular pitch bend can be used as FX, if say you weren't using a synth. You can pitchbend any audio, so it's a cool device too.
The biggest difference between these 2 methods is in audio quality- MIDI is smooth and granular is grainly/LoFi.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:35 pm reply with quote
and midi is simpliest then that is my choice.. and now when u have komplete cant u do it for me second and last time please? i read on NI forums u need to use pitch+gate from macros->building blocks->pitch+gate.. this wont help for what i want?
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nix808
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:51 pm reply with quote
In the post on the first page,
it is there.
It's really simple.
It's just a matter of getting that MIDI into ur VSTi.
I don't have maschine, so I don't know how the routing works.
Then u can build ur LFO however u want it.
I think it would be fine to make a new post->
'Routing MIDI cc in Maschine'
in hosts forum if u want,
with a link to here.
hmm,
do you have MIDI in/out & MIDI cable on your Maschine?
If so u can route it with that with NI standalone VSTi
Sorry I can't send u the routing coz no Maschine here

pitch & gate recieves MIDI messages in Reaktor, where you want to send the pitch bend message.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:02 pm reply with quote
and will it work in that your project(where u dont have wired but created inputs) if i wire input signal to somewhere to reaktor module? u dont know where to wire that input or what?
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nix808
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:14 pm reply with quote
I think if you set one Reaktor project to send a pitch bend message, and route that to MIDI output 1(say),
and open a second instance of Reaktor and set it to recieve from MIDI input 1 ,
the pitch and gate will recieve in the second instance of Reaktor. There is a pin on pitch and gate so u can modulate it.
I'm not overly familiar with Reaktor- but i think that's how it works.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:28 pm reply with quote
Damn, I didn't read your post that well-
Nah, that's all the wiring you have to do in Reaktor.
You have to wire the MIDI out to MIDI in on ur VSTi though.

I think u r mixing up inputs and outputs.
The 2 ins there don't do anything.
The only in or out on that schematic is the pb out,
which sends the MIDI
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:59 pm reply with quote
ok.. i understand.. thanx.. and i didnt found any pitchshifter on ni user database.. i chose granular because of comfort now thinking.... or i ask will be in granular pitchbend effect used midi pitchbend out module?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:21 pm reply with quote
The granular pitch-shifting has been implemented many times-
I hope you can find one that sounds nice.
It's hard to smooth the ends of the grains(short sounds) after they have been changed in length.

Nope, the granular pitch shifter is an effect. Just set up the Reaktor VSTfx on the VSTi's audio channel. It work like any VSTfx. The MIDI pitchbend module is not used.

You will need to implement your LFO yourself though I'm guessing. Perhaps one where you draw the curve somehow is what you r looking for.
Let me know if you get stuck, I can try help.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:08 am reply with quote
and which granular pitchbend module used is?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:19 pm reply with quote
https://co.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=userlibrary&t ype=0&ulbr=1&plview=list

Here is the user lib search.
I see there is Glex core cell,
but I think it would be better to find something from the library.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:49 pm reply with quote
in libary is nothing! i typed pitch shifter in the search found approx. 500 resulys and no pitch shifter there..
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:01 pm reply with quote
really-s#it.
I'll have a look today.
We can use Glex if we need to-
It has speed which equates to pitch hopefully
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:06 pm reply with quote
i know.. i suck.. but i look to description on every product on every page and no pitch shifter.. if u found it for me with maybe some other seraching words i'll be have first complete reaktor project done.. betwen time i go trying that glex....
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