have you seen this tool? incredible!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAoVxuSIevc&feature=related

and here it is used in more detail:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtUjHi-e8lk&feature=related
Last edited by > DiGiT < on Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:03 pm; edited 1 time in total

Hi DiGiT,
it's there already! At least for Mulab patches. There are 2 Wobblebass patches in the lib (in the Bass and MuSynth folder). Both have the LFO speed as meta parameter.
Create a sequence, create an automation lane and assign the LFO speed and/or Filter freq to the automation lane, draw some automation and off you go.

You could arrive at very similar results with a combination of any synth and the MuLab WahWah filter. Not sure about the apparent switch from tempo sync to the slightly faster wobble but a combination of two different automation parts could do that for you.

Obviously, there's always room for new, more comfortable functionality at all times in any given piece of software.

WahWah is a good idea. The LFO Freq is called Speed here.

i guess im getting at the high level of interactive functionality here... also the arbitrary placement, phase, speed, shape etc. im not arguing that it cant be done in some convoluted way. im just not interested in figuring it out, i would want it immediately available and dead easy to use with intuitive visual feedback (tre necessary imho)

i know that this sort of thing smacks of a feature made for a particular style thats currently popular, but i feel it could be useful beyond the scope of 'wobble bass'

there is also a plugin that creates a similar effect called LFOtool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94MRdk9zTHw&feature=player_em bedded#!

but im just not interested in a non-native solution.

oh by the way i authored one of those wobble bass patches. but honestly i wasnt aware of the LFO tool in FLS. to me its a superior approach to any ive seen so far. and dont kids want simple and easy and visual?

anyway, just a suggestion. when i saw how cool it was i just had to share. i hope its welcome that i do so.
Last edited by > DiGiT < on Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:16 pm; edited 1 time in total

gosh i hope i didnt upset anybody.

Much appreciated that you share your thoughts and wishes!

I've not much comments on the topic itself atm, except that i see other development priorities at the moment. Also because that FL LFO tool does not look that simple to me, it's a lot of clicking and selecting too. I think if you do it with automation parts automating Filter LFO parameters, you'll have similar amount of features with a similar amount of effort. Maybe even more features..? You can MIDI control the LFO parameters and record them and edit the recordings.

Or you could draw a real LFO type automation curve into an automation part and route that to the filter cutoff.

So many options..!

i think visual feedback and template style input is what makes me think this tool is so awesome. my other ex-favorite software has an lfo tool like this that i always loved using. i think i brought it up here a while back.

priorities are priorities for sure. id rather have multi core support naturally but this is food for the future, when it gets here that is. in the meantime, is there a phase control on the lfo module? i didnt see one. id love to choose the start phase. is there an option for that?

re: clicking and selecting. i disagree. i think its dead simple and intuitive. how else would you take an external audio source and put a unique lfo on the first 3 beats of the mesure, followed by a slower lfo over the next 5 beats? hmm. yeah the fl lfo tool accomplishes that rather easily id say. and since you can see whats going on, you can easily discern what the next step should be.

you know, the lfo tool isnt a strict lfo in the sense that theres a module somewhere making a slow sine that you route to your parameter. it prints a list of values to a part in a sequence... to me a BIG difference and well suited to the task. this paradigm makes for easy editing and flipping around etc as seen in the above vids.

the reason FL sells is that it has stuff that works well for everybody, even dummies! at least thats my assumption, considering how many people use it, even complete morons. not to mention some high profile artists.

sorry guess im a lil disappointed that you dont see it the way i do. just checking: i wonder if you have a personal feeling against FLS? if i tread somewhere that is too sensitive it would be nice to know. im looking at this from an end user point of view, not from a competing developers point of view. my wish for a tool like this isnt motivated by anything but the fact that i want to use it in mulab. so maybe this is why we dont see it the same way.

I think MuLab's automation editors are quite visual, no?

And about templates: You can load premade automation sequences if you want.
I also added a note on the WL that the automation part envelopes should be separately loadable/savable.

Anyway, that said, i agree with you the FL LFO tool is a nice tool too.



Not yet. It's on the WL.



Ah, ok now i got your point about the visual feedback. Yes that's true.



I don't have a similar big team to accomplish the same.
So that's also one of the reasons why i must focus on simplicity and priorities.

Maybe i should team up again. Tried that in the past, but you know what happened. Anyway, i'm open to go in team, if it's a good fit. But until then, i'm must be crafeful in what i do.

Well maybe i don't disagree that much with you, but i just don't have the resources to copy each and every nice feature from every other app.

Nope. I respect it.

No prob for me, ever. Really.



I fully understand. The bottomline is that i have to be very selective in what i do because of limited resources.