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Postby BL_Zebub; Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:50 pm

you guys are awesome...He is going to be happy after school tomorrow!!

anymore Ideas would be greatly appriciated...drums?? ADM maybe?

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Postby JimmiG; Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:14 pm

Any of the "All-in-one" DAWs would be good. My vote goes to Reason since that's what I started on. You can learn a lot about synthesis by experimenting with the virtual patch cords, but it also comes with a very good sample library.
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Postby Mechanought; Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:02 am

On the free VST side of things I recommend the full TAL suite.

Great quality, low CPU usage and easy to grasp interfaces.


TAL Noise Maker is a pretty solid little synth that you're son would be able to emulate popular sounds with.

As far as Drums go that's harder. I'm still on the prowl for a decent free Sampler along the lines of Kong (Not going to happen I think).

Though DSK has a fun little Drum Machine VST:


It's more hit and miss with DSK, but they certainly have some good stuff. I find a few of their string samples pretty useful actually.

Hope this helps.
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Postby D.H. Miltz; Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:16 am

If you're looking for acoustic drums, have a look here:
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2010/06 ... full-kits/

(Actually, all the posts there under the Freeware Studio and Free Sample Shootout headings are probably worth at least a skim.)
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Postby carrieres; Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:40 am

orion from synapse-audio
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Postby Resonator63; Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:44 am

Mulab free might be worth a try.
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Postby jethrobull; Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:52 am

BL_Zebub wrote:dont want him using my system, all win7 stations 7 pro, 2 tb hd 16 gig ram extreme processors, on all units.. what is a very basic daw that will rubn on his computer, an older xp system..

The daws I run are cubase 4.5, cubase 5, cubase 6, presonus one ver 2, and flstudio pro.

any help would be much appriciated, and want to get him started with free ware vst-vsti-- so any suggestions will be more than welcome.. my knowledge of freeware, at this point in my career, is , sadly lacking.. the daw doesnt have to be freeware, nor do the instruments or effects, but he is 9 and just learning..so please, all suggestions are welcome.

Maybe worth a look...http://lmms.sourceforge.net/home.php or very cosmetically challenged http://traverso-daw.org/
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Postby Resonator63; Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:56 am

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Postby pough; Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:30 am

You could pick up the latest Computer Music magazine - it has a DAW, instruments and effects. Everything a growing boy needs.
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Postby swamiill; Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:39 am

garageband, logic, fl studio.. anything reall.y
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Postby braj; Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:45 am

Resonator63 wrote:Mulab free might be worth a try.

I think that may be perfect for my boy, 4 tracks and 8 VSTs should keep it simple on a netbook.
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Postby fedexnman; Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:12 am

you could go sign up for an account at mackie dot com and buy Tracktion2 for $29 bucks . Its got a sampler , for drums and loops .

Postby mztk; Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:16 pm

i also really think Orion would be a good choice.
it is a nice visual representation/analogy of working
with a MIDI rig, and is very educational. (how else is
a kid going to understand/discover how to pump one compressor
with another ? :) ) and it is excellent for auditioning and
using freeware plugins. as in 'transparent'. it got quite pricey
recently but was 99eu for last version( seem to remember)

also very 'literal': it makes it quite clear what signal
chains you are making and refers directly to working with
a mixing desk and sound modules, samplers, etc. no clever
abstract semantic graphics, just a 'literal' virtual representation
of the whole thing.

audio recording and editing isn't as sophisticated as the standard
pro DAWs, but there'll be plenty to do, for a long time. it depends
what sort of music he wants to make, too.

also, i don't know what the bundled version of ableton live that comes
with the nanoKorg series is like, but you could get him one of those
for 40quid(eg the controller board as mixer/controller), and it could
give him a lot of fun using audio clips.
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Postby allofdrab; Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:26 pm

He's 9?
I'd take the money you'd spend on a MIDI keyboard, monitor, and whatever software, and instead by a used iPad (1), Beatmaker 1 or 2, and an iRig Mic.
Based on my experience with kids his age, he'd probably love the portability, compactness, and touch interface.

Another option I'd consider is AudioMulch for Windows XP and up (and Mac).
It has something of the patch cord playground that Reason has, is great for experimenting and learning about sound, makes automation intuitive and easy, and can be used as a performative instrument/composition system with it's Metasurface - making it FUN and easy to experiment with - which should be the ultimate goal for a 9 year old (in my opinion).

Both Beatmaker and AudioMulch are more than adequate tools for learning to compose music, and have the easy fun factor that I think should be an element in your choice, but hey, I'm no authority on what works for all 9 yr old kids (if anything does).

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