excision - execute... how does it sound so huge??!!
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- KVRian
- 576 posts since 15 Apr, 2004 from Sweden
formant filters
layering
frequency splitting
he has several little noisy treble bits panned around at one point during the bassline. the panning enhances the stumbling effect created by the timbre of slightly different attacks interrupting each other. lots of distortion, mostly very dry sounds each with its own slot in the frequency spectrum and timing (micro-pespective). generally there are three layers going on: sub (which is probably the same sound throughout), then the growling formant and then some presence in the form of brutally high-passed, gated, bit-crushed, FM'ed and distorted stuff (not necessarily all those but those are good places to begin) with lots of crunch. there might be more layers or fewer, but I think he always uses at least two sounds (either two VST's or two split channels from one source VST) for the bass in this track.
(the reverbed bass suggestion is very dubious).
sorry far hap-hazardly written, though hopefully insightful, post.
layering
frequency splitting
he has several little noisy treble bits panned around at one point during the bassline. the panning enhances the stumbling effect created by the timbre of slightly different attacks interrupting each other. lots of distortion, mostly very dry sounds each with its own slot in the frequency spectrum and timing (micro-pespective). generally there are three layers going on: sub (which is probably the same sound throughout), then the growling formant and then some presence in the form of brutally high-passed, gated, bit-crushed, FM'ed and distorted stuff (not necessarily all those but those are good places to begin) with lots of crunch. there might be more layers or fewer, but I think he always uses at least two sounds (either two VST's or two split channels from one source VST) for the bass in this track.
(the reverbed bass suggestion is very dubious).
sorry far hap-hazardly written, though hopefully insightful, post.
bleh
- KVRAF
- 2925 posts since 29 May, 2009 from New Zealand
I'll see if I can get some patches sorted for you (moving house, so not a hell of a lot of time for anything music atm )steadman wrote:only just got this synth today but realised that im gonna need a step by step guide to this one.. new synth and all. if anyone can help cheers
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- KVRAF
- 4285 posts since 31 Oct, 2004
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 4 Dec, 2011
GeorgeZ wrote:No video, can't be bothered. Attempt 1... just quickly after lunch:
http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/nhwowxhc5 ... s_test.mp3
How did you make your beat so loud without clipping or distorting the kick and bass?
- KVRAF
- 2925 posts since 29 May, 2009 from New Zealand
Sidechain compression (was done pretty nasty and quickly... you'll actually hear the bass "duck" down in volume for the kick and the snare every time they hit. In general you'll want to fine tweak it so you can barely make out the "ducking", just hear huge bass and a thumping kick with no distortion or phase cancellation etc).proevim wrote:GeorgeZ wrote:No video, can't be bothered. Attempt 1... just quickly after lunch:
http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/nhwowxhc5 ... s_test.mp3
How did you make your beat so loud without clipping or distorting the kick and bass?
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- KVRist
- 118 posts since 21 Oct, 2010 from Cardiff, UK
Sounds to me like the bass has a high octave sync added to it, maybe three octaves over three oscillators, bottom one being sub/sinewave and the other two being hard-sync and sawtooth, and some heavy overdriven distortion in the high end, while the low end keeps its subby growl... I'll have a play tomorrow if I can and see what i can do.
Dom Kane
DJ | Producer | Engineer
Sound designer for Moog (L Phatty & S Phatty & Animoog), FXpansion (D-CAM + Geist), Steve Duda & Deadmau5 (Nerve & Serum)
http://www.KaneAudio.com
DJ | Producer | Engineer
Sound designer for Moog (L Phatty & S Phatty & Animoog), FXpansion (D-CAM + Geist), Steve Duda & Deadmau5 (Nerve & Serum)
http://www.KaneAudio.com
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- KVRist
- 118 posts since 21 Oct, 2010 from Cardiff, UK
I just knocked this up quite quickly using one instance of NI Massive for the main bass, and then one instance of Ableton's Operator for a sine wave underneath.... Then lots of overdrive.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10601699/permal ... ssline.mp3
Let me know if it's any good, and I can upload the Ableton project, or the Massive patch, or whatever.
D
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10601699/permal ... ssline.mp3
Let me know if it's any good, and I can upload the Ableton project, or the Massive patch, or whatever.
D
Dom Kane
DJ | Producer | Engineer
Sound designer for Moog (L Phatty & S Phatty & Animoog), FXpansion (D-CAM + Geist), Steve Duda & Deadmau5 (Nerve & Serum)
http://www.KaneAudio.com
DJ | Producer | Engineer
Sound designer for Moog (L Phatty & S Phatty & Animoog), FXpansion (D-CAM + Geist), Steve Duda & Deadmau5 (Nerve & Serum)
http://www.KaneAudio.com
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- KVRAF
- 4867 posts since 18 Dec, 2000
yeah, really nice. I'd love to check out the patch and Live set.domkane wrote:I just knocked this up quite quickly using one instance of NI Massive for the main bass, and then one instance of Ableton's Operator for a sine wave underneath.... Then lots of overdrive.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10601699/permal ... ssline.mp3
Let me know if it's any good, and I can upload the Ableton project, or the Massive patch, or whatever.
D
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- KVRAF
- 4005 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Hamilton, New Zealand
A lot of clipping and distortion imo
I make music: progressive-acoustic | electronica/game-soundtrack work | progressive alt-metal
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- KVRist
- 118 posts since 21 Oct, 2010 from Cardiff, UK
No worries, here you go guys.
Ableton Project - http://goo.gl/0SL9J
NI Massive Patch (Main Bass) - http://goo.gl/kjYAA
Screen shot of FX Chain after the "Main Bass":
Hope this helps. I'll leave it in my dropbox for a while, so feel free to share those links around if it helps
Cheers,
D
Ableton Project - http://goo.gl/0SL9J
NI Massive Patch (Main Bass) - http://goo.gl/kjYAA
Screen shot of FX Chain after the "Main Bass":
Hope this helps. I'll leave it in my dropbox for a while, so feel free to share those links around if it helps
Cheers,
D
Dom Kane
DJ | Producer | Engineer
Sound designer for Moog (L Phatty & S Phatty & Animoog), FXpansion (D-CAM + Geist), Steve Duda & Deadmau5 (Nerve & Serum)
http://www.KaneAudio.com
DJ | Producer | Engineer
Sound designer for Moog (L Phatty & S Phatty & Animoog), FXpansion (D-CAM + Geist), Steve Duda & Deadmau5 (Nerve & Serum)
http://www.KaneAudio.com
- KVRAF
- 2925 posts since 29 May, 2009 from New Zealand
Not an exact answer to your (ie. not just for this song, but his bass sounds in general), but close enough, AND answered by excision himself:
http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 5c#p844390
http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 5c#p844390