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Home studio reflected booming sound :(
phreaque
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:45 pm reply with quote
Hey folks,
So after 1 whole year I finally finished the acoustic treatment for my home studio, but still I have bassy booming sound. Frankly the sound generally that comes from my monitors sucks Sad Dunno what to do.
The panels for acoustic treatment I used are from Auralex (the egg pack shaped panels), spread all around the walls, the room dimensions are: W 2m * L 2m * H 2.6m
Do I need to use an EQ? Help
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:22 pm reply with quote
how much area of the room did you apply the auralex to?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:36 pm reply with quote
The 'foam tile' style of panel are more for taming mid/high freqs, not usually dense enough to trap any significant amount of bass.

Google DIY bass traps, amazing amount of info out there (basstraps.net for example).
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:41 pm reply with quote
Well i covered about 70% of the room, except the ceiling and i put a thick rug on the floor of course, but you mentioned the bass traps, do you guys ever made one before? Okay i readbmany articles and saw videos about doing them but need to know some notes
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:11 pm reply with quote
just me thinking...70%, carpet...bass traps...I dont know about anyone else but I dont think I would want to have my entire studio be dead...an iso booth yes but a control room? No thank you, I find dead rooms painful to be in.

I think bass traps are a good idea but I also think you should take down some foam...but then I never have had a decent room of my own so what do I know? Just my two cents but I think you over did it with the auralex Shrug
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:20 pm reply with quote
If I read your dimensions correctly, you're in a 6'x6'x7' room! That's vocal booth sized, my friend! And it probably is great for vocal tracking! But I don't know if you'll ever be truly happy monitoring with so many early wall reflections near your ears. But since they are so close, a less live space is probably best.

You can get used to how your bass translates, but upper mid and high nodes while mixing can wreck mixes in MUCH worse ways!

Try monitoring lower, that'll help with the direct/reflect issues and bass build up too. And run a line to your audio set up in the living room to check mixes, even if it's just a boombox/idock. It''ll get you better real world results in terms of room liveness and bass translation.

For me, averaging between studio, stereo, tv, headphones and car gets me the best results anyway! Trust no one source entirely!

Good Luck!

P.S. Make sure your speakers stay off the wall and out of corners as much as possible. Too close can double the bass response! Decoupling your speakers from whatever they sit on can help as well. Direct contact can turn a wooden desk into a bass reflex cabinet!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:51 am reply with quote
EQ a little bit, try to get closer to the monitors if possible. Use some building insulation and place it to the closest spot on the wall to the monitors. Also do this on the ceiling. You can wrap the insulation in fabric to keep fibers from getting around the place. But because of the room dimensions, your bass below about 70hz will be low and above will be resonant. EQ is the best option, but do note that any changes made will only have the measured effect at where the mic was located, as well as the monitors location. If you move the monitors, or listen in a different area, the EQ must be done again.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:30 pm reply with quote
Hink wrote:
but I think you over did it with the auralex Shrug

I guess so, you're right mate, I'd better to cover the critical area which the sound tend to reflect (front & back)...
And bass traps, yeah I must put a couple...
AFAIK, there're two kinds: Foam shaped & the other type which has cloth on wooden frame, which is best?

Xenobt wrote:
you're in a 6'x6'x7' room! That's vocal booth sized, my friend!
Yes it is too small, I'm not doing any vocal recording at all, just a little room to hide my stuff in & get rid of my wife's everyday nagging Very Happy
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But I don't know if you'll ever be truly happy monitoring with so many early wall reflections near your ears
What to do then? Sad
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P.S. Make sure your speakers stay off the wall and out of corners as much as possible
My monitors are away from corners by 6" and making an angle of 60 degree with my ears (as recommended) the sound projection is okay. But I believe I'm using wrong monitors as they're too big (Yamaha MSP7) Confused

camsr wrote:
EQ a little bit
I will do so... Although I'm afraid how will it affect my songs after they're mastered

BTW guys, there's an acoustic measurements for room in order to treat it acoustically, do you advice me to do so? Rolling Eyes
And thanks for all of you Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:34 pm reply with quote
phreaque wrote:
Xenobt wrote:
you're in a 6'x6'x7' room! That's vocal booth sized, my friend!
Yes it is too small, I'm not doing any vocal recording at all, just a little room to hide my stuff in & get rid of my wife's everyday nagging Very Happy
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But I don't know if you'll ever be truly happy monitoring with so many early wall reflections near your ears
What to do then? Sad
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P.S. Make sure your speakers stay off the wall and out of corners as much as possible
My monitors are away from corners by 6" and making an angle of 60 degree with my ears (as recommended) the sound projection is okay. But I believe I'm using wrong monitors as they're too big (Yamaha MSP7) Confused


I feel your pain phreaque! Your best bet would be a really good pair of headphones meant for mixing to do your composing and initial balances with. THEN, when you're ready to do final mixes, bring your gear out into the living space for a "mix weekend". She goes out with friends, you rock those big beautiful Yamahas and tweak details only decent volume gives you.

And get your speakers MUCH further from the corners if you can. 14 inches or better if you can manage it. If that's not possible, you'll eventually learn how your bass translates and mix accordingly. It IS more guesswork, but things like that can be mastered out later too.

And a helpful hint: Writing music for the lovely muse in your life is a good way to get your gear in good graces on a full time basis!

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