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XY controller for Alchemy?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:14 pm reply with quote
woolyloach wrote:
Now I'm wondering - would having a touchscreen make it possible for me to simply reach out and tweak the XY pads? Shit!


i think so... at least the way the touchscreen works with other apps seems like it should... i'll verify tonight (have a touchscreen desktop at home... fun for the kids at least). however, iirc the x/y pads are kind of small compared to the screen real-estate, guess no smaller than alchemy mobile would be on an ipod touch though.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:15 pm reply with quote
I'm within inches of getting an Android tablet.. if I do, then that TouchDAW thing would be my first app purchase! But I'm not sure I want to fork the dollars over yet.. argh.. blech..

Indecision sucks! Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

I should upgrade from Alchemy Player to full first, really. Confused Confused I have gigabytes of sound effects and Foley audio that I'd love to turn into fuel for dark soundscape/dark ambient patches.. heh heh.. HiHi HiHi
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:11 am reply with quote
anything like touchdaw for ios ?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:27 am reply with quote
There are many options for iOS. Touch OSC is the most well known, it can now communicate using OSC or MIDI CC with any host or plugin - although it may require a network MIDI connection is active. The recently released Lemur is incredibly powerful, but it's not nearly as cheap.

Konkreet Performer is excellent if you want something a little more abstract, but it's not designed as a DAW controller.

@woolyloach - whether it's Android or iOS, I do think these touch devices are the way forward. A larger screen is a must for more general music apps, but for basic remix pad control the smaller screens are fine. Dedicated devices like the Korg Kaoss pads are cool but too limited today, and I find the XY pads built in to keyboards are not nearly as nice to use. The the apps available for iOS, and those that will eventually make their way to Android, are just too flexible to pass up.

The QuNeo also looks like an excellent solution, but it's not really a proven yet. I'm sure it will be excellent, and I'll probably pick one up myself if they're not too expensive.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:40 am reply with quote
thanks you for touch OSC !
i should mention that i only have an iphone
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:46 am reply with quote
carrieres wrote:
thanks you for touch OSC !
i should mention that i only have an iphone

No worries! What OS / host do you want to control? Touch OSC is great, works fine on the smaller screen but there might be better solutions ...

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:20 am reply with quote
i am on Windows 7 with ableton live and orion
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:31 am reply with quote
Not sure about Orion controllers but Live is well covered.

This one is designed for use with TouchOSC and Live, seems to be open source:

http://livecontrol.q3f.org/

Lemur Kapture Pad:

http://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/kapture-pad/id419294268?mt=8

Lemur Griid Pro:

http://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/griid-pro/id384300805?mt=8

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:00 am reply with quote
It looks like the best get-it-now option is going to be an Android tablet, TouchDAW, and the rtpMIDI driver. Otherwise it's a basic knob box, which is the cheaper but not-so-nice option. Confused Urgh.

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*edit* I'm going to wait and see how the QuNeo works out. Ponying up a ton of money for an Android tablet JUST to do control surface stuff seems a little extreme. Confused Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:47 am reply with quote
FWIW, I'm going to grab a used nanoKONTROL for now so I can at least play with the XY pads while waiting for the QuNeo verdict. HiHi Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:21 pm reply with quote
why used? they are only $39 new... dunno how much you can save by going used, and you'd have to take whatever abuse the previous owner gave it.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:43 pm reply with quote
Some one mentioned the Korg nanoKONTROL USB Controller? I just got one today, from Amazon for about $40 including shipping and ....NICE! FLS found instantly and it works perfectly Turnado and Alchemy!
I'm still waiting for the drum pad controller to arrive, it has an XY pad.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:45 am reply with quote
chroma wrote:
why used? they are only $39 new... dunno how much you can save by going used, and you'd have to take whatever abuse the previous owner gave it.


Got it from a neighbor for $5. Razz Razz Razz Perfect shape, too! Spent the money I saved on a six pack of REALLY GOOD beer. HiHi

I'm out of USB ports, though. Time for a powered hub! Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:22 am reply with quote
$5!! that's insane. congratulations!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:01 pm reply with quote
I know it isn't perfect, but you can use a touchpad on a laptop. Double-click and drag will manipulate the x-y control. I would also like to have a dedicate x-y controller, but until I do, the touchpad works.
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