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idolo1co wrote: Drastic sale..errr..OK...saw nothing along those lines this past year except a $50 coupon and no, it's not the same as a discount based on quantity of previous purchases...but...OK...whatever...to each his own
My UAD-1 box clearly says "Mackie" on it..but..I dunno...whatever..moot point really...was establishing a timeline...some people will nitpick ANYTHING...literally. I'm not "blaming" UA for my CPU/Moterboard incompatibility so no need to jump to conclusions..it's a fact there can be incompatibilities, is something to be considered and hence was mentioned..at no point did I "infer" I was blaming them.... And I've never purchased a flexi version....hence...only logical conclusion here = I'm not smart...OR...I ALREADY had a card as well as the plugins included in it so made NO SENSE to buy again....$50 coupon or not...cheers Sorry about that, my intention wasn't to say you were not smart or anything like that. It does however, make a difference to people when misinformation is provided and they are trying to make a purchase decision. ---- I'm not insane. I'm reality challenged. |
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You know i gave it extra thought, maybe i wouldn't be so willing to change.. the native plug in world is very competitive now, and UAD seriously need to ramp up the power of their cards for the price they are charging.
Surely that last bit is generally agreed upon? Either that or drop prices. ---- Please call me Theo. |
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ttoz wrote: Surely that last bit is generally agreed upon? Either that or drop prices.
Personally, I'd like them to keep the current prices but double the power of all cards as follows: Duo $399 Quad $899 Octo $1,499 This way UA still gets to keep the same basic selling structure and the end user is kept up to pace with the rising DSP requirements of UA's latest plug-ins. |
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I think an Octo with newer gen sharcs is what is really needed. The top flight card, from reading the instances at their site just recently, imo should be at least 4 times the power of the current quad. Imo, of course! ---- Please call me Theo. |
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ttoz wrote: I think an Octo with newer gen sharcs is what is really needed. The top flight card, from reading the instances at their site just recently, imo should be at least 4 times the power of the current quad. Imo, of course!
I agree - Octo or no go! £1,200 for a QUAD is insane and a rip off. Concerning your earlier comment about going all UAD if you had the money, I would never do that even if I had the money because I really like a lot of native plugins more than some of the UAD ones. Although if you had the money for the whole UAD system then you'd probably also have the money for loads of native stuff. |
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munchkin wrote: Concerning your earlier comment about going all UAD if you had the money, I would never do that even if I had the money because I really like a lot of native plugins more than some of the UAD ones.
hmm, I'm not too aligned with that opinion. Now that Sonnox is going UAD, the only native plug-in I use regularly that can't be done or bettered on a UAD is the Neon HR. I guess that's why my 4 year old Q6600 is still way too much power for my needs. |
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ttoz wrote: I think an Octo with newer gen sharcs is what is really needed. The top flight card, from reading the instances at their site just recently, imo should be at least 4 times the power of the current quad. Imo, of course!
I thought the UAD-2 and the 21369's were the new sharcs? Are there newer ones? ---- I'm not insane. I'm reality challenged. |
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Cyforce wrote: UAD worth in this time? Hm difficult question. Some years ago, there would be a defintively yes, but now, so many new software has came up in superb quality, like U-He Uhbrik, all the Softube plugins, PluginAlliance, Sonnox, Waves... a mass - of absolutely great stuff aswell as great emulations - that's was the domain of the UAD was.
And the price is currently relative high for a good UAD-2 card(2-4 dsps) and all plugins are only available for an additional effort. Currently i would say, no - but LiquidMix DSP, this box is still worth the money! Specially trough the lowered price(179€ for the LiquidMix16 version), and well 179€ for a Firewire based DSP card, packed into a hardware controller and loaded with 60 top-notch emulations of legendary compressors and eqs, no comparision to UAD in case of value-for-money. I would recomend to take a look on the Focusrite LiquidMix as compressor and eq box, and parallel looking for some nice effect packages from Softube, U-He or others. Don't forget liquid mix is discontinued and there will *never* be 64 bit kernel drivers, kind of makes it useless for at least half of us! ---- Please call me Theo. |
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budweiser wrote: Thank you for responding, guys. The appolo looks really great but is a little pricey to me for now. Another possibility is the waves cla classic comp bundle & kramer tape, tube & transistor wich i recently demoed and sounds really great (the cla bundle is just awsome). But someone told me the neve 33609 waz the hidden child of a LA2A & a 1176, and nothing but the best comp ever. I'm just really curious about it (and will demo before buying, of course). I'm also really interested in the slate virtual tape, but i have to say i recently bought the rc-tube (mainly for the ilok 2), wich i absolutely dislike (it does virtally nothing to a mix, imo).
Hmmm, that's the point, subtle enhancement. Rc tube is incredible. I don't think you are going to find a better analog summing emu. I am very surprised you didn't like it. ---- Please call me Theo. |
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ttoz wrote: Hmmm, that's the point, subtle enhancement. Rc tube is incredible. I don't think you are going to find a better analog summing emu. I am very surprised you didn't like it.
I've actually heard more negative reports about it than positive. Maybe it's just too heavy-handed. |
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Uncle E wrote: munchkin wrote: Concerning your earlier comment about going all UAD if you had the money, I would never do that even if I had the money because I really like a lot of native plugins more than some of the UAD ones.
hmm, I'm not too aligned with that opinion. Now that Sonnox is going UAD, the only native plug-in I use regularly that can't be done or bettered on a UAD is the Neon HR. I guess that's why my 4 year old Q6600 is still way too much power for my needs. I prefer my Xils-Lab, FXpansions, Camel Audio and PSP plugins much more than a lot of what UAD has to offer for creative FX. UAD plugins could never replace them and nor are they meant to so a UAD only studio would be creative hell for me. Some of the reverbs I have are much more suited to the kind of music I make than UAD verbs. UAD has some outstanding plugins but getting locked into the prohibitive prices of the UAD dongles is a mistake I'll not make again. |
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but the poster was saying it didn't do anything.
I'd be very interested to read the reports, are we talking rc particularly or entire vcc? I love reading people's opinions on stuff like this, there's usually alot of constructive criticism as to what IS wrong with them from those that don't like, it makes me think. But all i seem to read are positive things overall! Hey Eric, my 40th birthday coming up, thunderbolt adapters to give me an extra two firewire busses on my ipad with the sonnet adapter, i can see an apollo and a satellite coming, as long as UAD are 64 bit by then. I am sure you will look after me on price and also ship as cheap as possible ---- Please call me Theo. |
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traded in my two uad 1 to two uad 2 solo for about 398.00 with the promo. i actually never quite maxed the uad 1 out about 90 percent now with the uad 2 dont get to 40 percent with the same project. actually suprised on the power difrrence, could not pass on the trade in for the price either.. |
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munchkin wrote: I prefer my Xils-Lab, FXpansions, Camel Audio and PSP plugins much more than a lot of what UAD has to offer for creative FX. UAD plugins could never replace them and nor are they meant to so a UAD only studio would be creative hell for me. Some of the reverbs I have are much more suited to the kind of music I make than UAD verbs. UAD has some outstanding plugins but getting locked into the prohibitive prices of the UAD dongles is a mistake I'll not make again.
I don't think I could've made this without the RE-201: http://www.jrrshop.com/eric/Eric_Dahlberg-Circuitry_Electric ity_Final.mp3 |
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Uncle E wrote: munchkin wrote: I prefer my Xils-Lab, FXpansions, Camel Audio and PSP plugins much more than a lot of what UAD has to offer for creative FX. UAD plugins could never replace them and nor are they meant to so a UAD only studio would be creative hell for me. Some of the reverbs I have are much more suited to the kind of music I make than UAD verbs. UAD has some outstanding plugins but getting locked into the prohibitive prices of the UAD dongles is a mistake I'll not make again.
I don't think I could've made this without the RE-201: http://www.jrrshop.com/eric/Eric_Dahlberg-Circuitry_Electric ity_Final.mp3 nice acid flashback I'd agree, the tape delay emu sounds very nice. especially the long feedback towards the middle of the song. cheers. dw |
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