As i already got PPG Wave 3.V, Largo, Blofeld, the Waldorf Edition, Synthmaster 2.5 and DUNE i got no interest in Komplexer which would be difficult to get anyway.
I know that you have a problem with the PPG Wave 3.V not having a wavetable editor. Anyway if you try to convince me that it'a a bad synth you will not have any luck as it's one of my absolute favorite synths.
BTW with both the Blofeld (using a free 3rd party editor) and Synthmaster you could do your own wavetables too. Some info about the Blofeld editor:
http://lady.rdsor.ro/~kotro/index.php?m=soft

With the new Cableguys Curve 2 Beta you could do crossfading (with modulation) of two custom waveforms too.

End of the story and back to Saurus. As the waveforms of each waveform could be morphed using the PW knob modulation of the PW parameter is nothing else than wavetable scanning but a very basic one with less really different waves.
Of course Saurus will not replace a "real" wavetable synth but it's nice that such kind of sounds is possible with it too.


Ingo
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Can you hear it in this clip as well?
http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/Saurus/Steep_Res_Swee p.wav

Ve erryy nice! I thought you tricked me using some real VA synth, so I downloaded the demo just because of your clip. I must say the demo sounds don't do justice. I'm evaluating further but so far the sound is much better than I expected. Thanks for your clip!

Yes my suggestion is to give it a try, put your hands on on it and try for yourself what Saurus can do...

So you had a listen to Saurus in person?

If you are still here, what do you think of this clip?
www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/Saurus/Steep_Res_Sweep2.wav

Exactly my thoughts
I guess the competitor they took the sawtooth from was AD Phosphor or something

I especially love this part "Doing an accurate model of an analog filter with all details is very difficult. Only a long-year expert in digital signal processing with scientific knowledge is able to do this job properly.
The filters of competing products model no or only some aspects of the analog filter. They are only rough approximations - and that's why they will always sound more 'digital' and 'cold'."

Nice to know that Tone2 are the only ones with "scientific knowledge" and all other devs are just morons randomly typing on their keyboards until they get an useful algo

I've nothing against Tone2 but they should really think about that page again

Cheers
Dennis
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OK, here goes. Firstly, the hype surrounding this and then the result is just flabbergasting. I am almost going to suggest that Tone 2 should be ashamed of themselves. Having direct "digs" at the "competition" and then delivering a product that lives up to it's cpu claim, but does not sound at ALL, and i mean at ALL, ANALOG, is downright misleading.

This is another sylenth, Dune, VA, nothing more, nothing less. The thing is it DOES sound pretty good for a digital synth and has some great presets. The demo limitations are unjustifiable, however at least with the presets one can get a general idea.

The price is cheaper than sylenth or Dune, which means many will buy it and there will be quality 3rd party patch banks available and it IS a nice synth and for someone who doesn't have the Korg stuff or sylenth or Dune I am sure it's a good buy.

But hearing the test examples i picked Diva or the real analog every time with eyes shut. The "warmth" that you can FEEL is so evident and noticeable in those, and at the same time as precisely lacking from Saurus.

I am actually amazed by all the hype and build up and claims. It is just plain WRONG.

A nice synth, yes, but not even REMOTELY analog sounding or "feeling". Just another virus, sylenth, AAS ultraanalog,whatever.

I mean, seriously. Like it, great, buy it, great, but no one tell me, no one, that this lives up to the claims of sounding analog like the competition but with a much lower cpu usage.

Diva uses that cpu because it DOES sound analog and it currently is the only synth that TRULY does. There are others that come close, but this is not one of them. Not even remotely.

I wouldn't be having this attitude if such misinformation hadn't been spread all these weeks. I kind of predicted it, but i was hoping i'd be wrong this time.

At himalaya, that last demo almost pierce my eardrum. Grrrr.

Which one?

Well, what are they supposed to say in their marketing brouhaha?

"Saurus - hell yeah, it's not as good as Diva, but close enough for those whose CPU doesn't quite make it. And it's aggressively priced, as well (here's lookin' at you, Sylenth)! Buy it, will ya, pretty please with chocolate frosting on top? We'll even tell you you're using a top of the line, cutting-edge product, developed by the finest nobel-laureate minds at CERN, if that will make you feel better about your purchase."

Got to agree, it's a nice sounding VA, nothing more and nothing less. Nothing we haven't heard before. If I were just starting out with nothing more than Poizone in my folder, I'd probably get it.

I already explained that on page 63. I don't know what is difficult to understand here.

Here it is again:

Boooooooooorrrrrring!

...and I gave an opinion, but I'm still none the wiser.

I presume you were trying to make a point - without further explanation, that point will remain a mystery to everyone but yourself.

||Not directed at anyone in particular, just my injection into a meandering dicussion [but I'm sure some will be ready for a personal attack by assuming it's directed at them... get over it!]||

This is complete bollocks. There are more analog synths than just a moog, and not all of them are wooly sounding [just my 2c on the supposed magical analog sound]. Many are sharper and brighter sounding. Andromeda anyone??

Next, they never mentioned any names, therefore any direct comparisons with X and Y based on what you think they were referring to is just an assumption, and nothing you say can change that.

At the end of the day no matter what the blurb says, it comes down to if you like Saurus' sound? Yes? Great. No? Great as well... but why such a massive public QQ about it... [an opinion is fine, but bleating on about it for the last 20 pages... c'mon] It won't change what the dev says about it, and I'm pretty sure it won't change what someone else hears.

People seem to take this type of thing way too seriously... chillax. Music's suppose to be fun! [ref. RP BLADE release thread... people were pissing and moaning in there as well till bloody kingdom come. It's pathetic really].


EDIT: Just read a bit back in the thread and realized I practically "replied" and wrote the opposite to what Theo said... not directed at you mate [specifically mentioning so there's no doubt ]
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The point being: a great sound designer can make any instrument sound great.

Just thought I'd clarify.