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Now that AKAI went native basically, how long before the keyboard makers do?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:55 am reply with quote
jupiter8 wrote:
Nonsense.


Which part of it?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:57 am reply with quote
D.Josef wrote:
jupiter8 wrote:
Nonsense.


Which part of it?

All of it except maybe for this:
D.Josef wrote:
but I think physical instruments - be they electronic or acoustic ones - will continue to play a very important role in music.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:00 am reply with quote
Haha. Care to elaborate?

Of course I am aware of the Nyquist frequency. But currently, hardware still has the edge, because inaudible overtones that are above the human hearing limit will produce audible artifacts through heterodyning.

Now time to time this is intentional, or becomes part of the signature sound, like in the Supersaw. Sometimes you don't want it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:23 am reply with quote
UltraJv wrote:
What do these have in common?

Roland : Virtual Canvas.

Korg : Legacy collection

Akai : Various old FX plugins

They are all but discontinued. The pattern here is obvious. After having tried the plugin market, the big 3 still make hardware and have given up on software.

The new Akai Renaissance/Studio is not "hardware". It is software + a controller/audio interface.
Korg still sells software for the iPad.
Roland's "Virtual Canvas" was a joke.
And you conveniently forgot Yamaha.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:29 am reply with quote
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Korg still sells software for the iPad.

Korg still sells software for the PC & Mac.







And if you need to ask...
Legacy Collection.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:34 am reply with quote
I meant: they come up with new stuff for the iPad (recently) Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:16 am reply with quote
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the software market is already saturated.. I suspect most hardware manufacturers will stay with hardware as a result.. software isnt largely becoming hardware so they are 'safe' so to speak..

What they COULD do, however, is make more VST interfaces for their products much like Access did with the Virus TI.. I think Roland also does it to some degree..


I want to see more iPad Interfaces, Software or Hardware.
Alchemy is a good Example.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:21 am reply with quote
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My question is how long do you think before Roland,Yamaha,Access,Kurzweil jump on board? Making real plugins of their stuff, if ever??
Five years, three months and four days.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:55 am reply with quote
Do I need to point out the obvious? Hardware can't be pirated and distributed over the internet. Pick any of your favorite soft synths and do a Google search. You will find dozens of sites giving away pirated copies of the latest version of the software. Keeping things in hardware or requiring a hardware component solves that problem. Why would any of these companies willingly put themselves in that position when they don't need to.

If you want these companies to make software-only versions of their hardware, you have to support those people and organizations working to protect copyright. Without it, the business case for software-only is much less compelling. If you thought you didn't have a personal stake in the copyright debate, now you do.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:12 am reply with quote
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If you want these companies to make software-only versions of their hardware, you have to support those people and organizations working to protect copyright.

Support the RIAA, MPAA, ...?
I'd rather give my money to organised crime. Not that there's much difference Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:54 am reply with quote
T-CM11 wrote:
JJBiener wrote:

If you want these companies to make software-only versions of their hardware, you have to support those people and organizations working to protect copyright.

Support the RIAA, MPAA, ...?
I'd rather give my money to organised crime. Not that there's much difference Very Happy

This.

I buy software not 'cause i am scared of someone, but just 'cause i i want to support the developer and have always access to the latest update.

Devs behind Reaper and U-He taught a lot to me.

Organisations like RIAA in Italy are defending the rights only of the biggest players in the game and creating a lot of problems (bureaucracy and expenses) for the little ones.

Hardware is nice but software is my choice.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:58 am reply with quote
T-CM11 wrote:
JJBiener wrote:

If you want these companies to make software-only versions of their hardware, you have to support those people and organizations working to protect copyright.

Support the RIAA, MPAA, ...?
I'd rather give my money to organised crime. Not that there's much difference Very Happy


Lawrence Lessig would be proud of you.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:05 am reply with quote
alphadelphi wrote:

This.

I buy software not 'cause i am scared of someone, but just 'cause i i want to support the developer and have always access to the latest update.

Devs behind Reaper and U-He taught a lot to me.

Organisations like RIAA in Italy are defending the rights only of the biggest players in the game and creating a lot of problems (bureaucracy and expenses) for the little ones.

Hardware is nice but software is my choice.


I buy software because it is illegal and immoral to take someone's property without compensating them for it.

The RIAA can't defend the rights of some without defending the rights of all. They aren't the ones causing the problems. It is the ones who insist on illegally distributing copyrighted material that are the problem. The only reason RIAA is involved at all is because governments are not defending the rights of those who create and own copyrighted material. If governments were to take their role of defending private property in the case of intellectual property as seriously as they defend the right of other property owners, the RIAA and the MPAA and other groups would be more than happy to step aside.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:10 am reply with quote
The end does not always justify the means.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:14 am reply with quote
JJBiener wrote:
If you want these companies to make software-only versions of their hardware, you have to support those people and organizations working to protect copyright. Without it, the business case for software-only is much less compelling. If you thought you didn't have a personal stake in the copyright debate, now you do.


Yes, Just like we need more (body/shoe/metal) scanners in airports to protect us from terrorists and more prisons to resolve the high crime rates..

The issue is significantly moral/interpersonal which is largely resolved by education.. at home.. not with extreme legislation of freedoms and forceful deterrence. Yes, I doubt this will happen.. but the other way doesn't work either (legislation+prisons).
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