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Waves NLS Non-Linear Summer released
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lightsfadelow
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:09 pm reply with quote
We are digressing.

One thing I am disappointed about is that Waves NLS (stands for Non Linear Summing) doesn't actually do the summing. It is just another coloration plugin like VCC. Seems like stripbus is the only plugin that actually communicates between channels (while it doesn't actually bypass the daw's summing it comes pretty close to modeling a console's behavior in a way no other plugin does.

I haven't demoed it yet but I suspect that I have enough saturation, coloration, character plugs already.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:32 pm reply with quote
This is just an in as I have no idea wtf this is and want to understand it......nothing to see here........move along.......
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:17 pm reply with quote
Lol, that's also the impression i got from the demo. I have no idea what it does. I try to bypass and enable it while the track is playing and yet i don't hear any major differences.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:17 pm reply with quote
Sorry, double post
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:51 pm reply with quote
ttoz wrote:
The melda auto volume absolutely annihilates [Waves Vocal Rider] and makes it look like a first draught from the 80's of what a potential plug in might do if it worked.


Hey TTOZ,
That's interesting! I was wishing that WVR's gain riding could be slowed down more than the slow setting. I tested MAutoVolume and had no luck with it. It just seemed to pump like crazy.
Having said that, I've always found the Melda plugins' UI unintuitive.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:35 am reply with quote
it does pump, if you want it perfectly even at extreme settings.. but it can be avoided and still do a smoother job than vocal rider..
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:39 am reply with quote
ttoz wrote:
it does pump, if you want it perfectly even at extreme settings.. but it can be avoided and still do a smoother job than vocal rider..

Cool, I'll have to give it another try.

Cheers TTOZ!
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yl
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:44 am reply with quote
lightsfadelow wrote:
We are digressing.

One thing I am disappointed about is that Waves NLS (stands for Non Linear Summing) doesn't actually do the summing. It is just another coloration plugin like VCC.


what ? I thought you can route to "vca" ?
that sounds like summing to me.. what am I missing ?

the dude with the videos didn't even check the summing feature..
only the preamp clipping/saturation options.. (which are like vcc)

afaik the concept here is to route the individual strips to the summing 8 vca(groups) buss

still waiting for someone to properly test it...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:48 am reply with quote
[quote="yl"]
lightsfadelow wrote:
afaik the concept here is to route the individual strips to the summing 8 vca(groups) buss

Oh, well I missed that bit. Maybe I will give it a try after all. Could be interesting.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:48 am reply with quote
The "VCA" is just a remote control for the individual plugin instances. It does not change the routing or summing of your daw.

Waves NLS = saturation + fader + remote control of the plugin suite Smile

(no routing)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:53 am reply with quote
Laughing the release of Waves NLS made me buy Sonimus Satson...

EDIT: I'm a bit confused, I don't think I necessarily need it since I have a decent tape plugin on buses. hmm Confused
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yl
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:59 am reply with quote
so why does the guy say ... you can route (for instance) a ssl channel through a emi summing ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5E35Jg27eE
http://www.waves.com/content.aspx?id=12023

"you can bus it to either the standard bussing in your session..or you can route it to 1 of 8 vca subgroups.."

they lie ?!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:03 am reply with quote
yl wrote:
so why does the guy say ... you can route (for instance) a ssl channel through a emi summing ?



"you can bus it to either the standard bussing in your session..or you can route it to 1 of 8 vca subgroups.."

they lie ?!



He doesn't lie Smile He talks about a bus summing "flavour" Smile And that's correct!
Cool


(Make a test: Insert a fader plugin after the waves NLS and mute the track via the fader plugin -> no audio from that channel reaches the "summing" plugin Smile )
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:05 am reply with quote
so the "summing bus flavour".. it's "applied" to the individual channels rather than routing it through ?

I don't get it..
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:09 am reply with quote
yl wrote:
so the "summing bus flavour".. it's "applied" to the individual channels rather than routing it through ?

I don't get it..



You get 2 independent saturation plugins. But you can remotly control their buttons/knobs/faders. That's all.



There is no secret/magic/additional routing.
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