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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:38 pm reply with quote
I just got the CSR. I can highly recommend it. Very nice classy sound to it. It seems to have a lot of good presets too. To me this sounds more like a "classic rock" machine, and someone have compared it to a Lexicons PCM91.
On the other hand, I've used Valhalla Room longer and it's just great for tweaking new stuff quickly. The gui on it is much more accessible, though it has a bit different settings for the verbs too. It doesn't sound as classy. I'd rather describe it as elegant and modern. Very high quality! ..though, that's not what you always need for a rock mix Smile
So in the OP's case i'd prob go for the CSR. Personally I use both Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:46 pm reply with quote
mkdr wrote:
I just got the CSR. I can highly recommend it. Very nice classy sound to it. It seems to have a lot of good presets too. To me this sounds more like a "classic rock" machine, and someone have compared it to a Lexicons PCM91.
On the other hand, I've used Valhalla Room longer and it's just great for tweaking new stuff quickly. The gui on it is much more accessible, though it has a bit different settings for the verbs too. It doesn't sound as classy. I'd rather describe it as elegant and modern. Very high quality! ..though, that's not what you always need for a rock mix Smile
So in the OP's case i'd prob go for the CSR. Personally I use both Smile


After demoing CSR I've also bought it. It's the first reverb I've used that I can get to sit in the mix pretty quickly. I've got the UAD ones, Powercore and a couple of native ones which seem really tricky to use and sound great on individual sounds but seem tough to fit in a mix.

I've not tried VRoom (am I being over familiar here as a non owner?) But I'll try the demo and see how it compare to CSR.

UPDATE:

Just tried the VROOM - very nice reverb but still prefer CSR. They're very close though. But it's not a must have for me.

UBERMOD - Fantastic! I must get this as soon as I have the cash. I've got LeMasque Delay and PSP 608 and now I really want this! It has a very airy sound quality that the others can't really match very easily.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:31 am reply with quote
Thanks for the kind words about CSR! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:58 am reply with quote
I'm going to go with the suggestion to make the decision for yourself. Both can be demoed so why go by others opinions as your sole deciding factor. While research and seeking others opinions is always a valid tool when searching for a new tool, it should never be the only factor as we each have individual tastes and individual requirements. Who knows, you may end up like many and eventually getting both.

Right now CSR is on sale for $49 dollars, ValhallaRoom seems to be staying at $50 for a while so if the possibility that you might want both, perhaps you might want to consider that as a factor.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:03 pm reply with quote
As mentioned earlier, you can count on IK products being regularly discounted. I remember CSR being $99, including T-Racks (Ultimate Mastering Bundle).

I've had CSR for over a year and seldom use it. I bought ArtsAcoustic Reverb about 4 months ago and have used it more often already. (BTW, I just found this 6 year old thread http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130895&postday s=0&postorder=asc&start=0 )

For your guitar needs you may want to try Overloud's SpringAge, especially when they have their 40% off promos.

CSR does not work with some hosts, so definitely try before you buy. I do like CSR and think its worth the $50. I probably would spend my money elsewhere, though.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:11 pm reply with quote
Is CSR 64bit?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:32 pm reply with quote
vaisnava wrote:
Is CSR 64bit?

Short answer: No.

Long answer: Not yet. But, it's on IK's to-do list, somewhere between Sampletank and world peace.

Silly answer: Cascade two 32bit instances - should be close enough for folk music.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:35 pm reply with quote
mandolarian wrote:
Silly answer: Cascade two 32bit instances - should be close enough for folk music.


Even better: use The Glue between both.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:37 pm reply with quote
standalone wrote:
mandolarian wrote:
Silly answer: Cascade two 32bit instances - should be close enough for folk music.


Even better: use The Glue between both.


Yes, but that's more folk/rock isn't it? HiHi
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:03 pm reply with quote
standalone wrote:
mandolarian wrote:
Silly answer: Cascade two 32bit instances - should be close enough for folk music.


Even better: use The Glue between both.


That is 64 bit mono... you need two 32bit instances for each channel to achieve true stereo or four total instances.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:27 pm reply with quote
mandolarian wrote:
vaisnava wrote:
Is CSR 64bit?


Long answer: Not yet. But, it's on IK's to-do list, somewhere between Sampletank and world peace.



So forget about it then?

Ah, I'm really enjoying my VR in x64 native tsk tsk tsk Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:29 pm reply with quote
Howdy KVR Krew:

I just bought CSR (on sale for $49). I'm really, really liking it. I haven't demoed Valhalla yet, but quite frankly, I am pleased with CSR and will just stick with it and Bootsy's epicVERB.

Once you get familiar with CSR, you can sure get some nice reverbs/ambience in your mix. I'm really enjoying the Classic plate and the Classic Rooms. While I was researching the plugin (and being careful to spend my limited funds wisely) I was impressed that I bought it for only $49. I see that CSR used to be sold for $300+.

My DAW ( Acoustica Mixcraft 5.2) is only 32 bit, but I'm getting along well using it. BTW, don't pooh-pooh Mixcraft unless you've used it, because for the money, it sure is a terrific product. I'd tried Reaper for a short while, but I found it quite convoluted and non-intuitive. Mind you, I would probably get perfectly comfortable with it if I used it more.

As an aside, Acoustica's Pianissimo virtual Grand plugin is surprisingly good too. If you need a really good piano VSTi for general piano accompaniment tracks, you won't do much better unless you buy one of the expensive sample libraries. I bought it and Mixcraft, bundled together, for only $130 about 6 months ago. I do hope the next iteration of Mixcraft will be available in 64 bit though.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:05 pm reply with quote
Brother Charles wrote:
...I was impressed that I bought it for only $49...


IK products are overpriced, and you can find them on sale regularly.
I've only purchased them on sale (group buys, stupid deal of the day, promos, etc.)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:52 am reply with quote
Ah Xoc Kin wrote:
As mentioned earlier, you can count on IK products being regularly discounted. I remember CSR being $99, including T-Racks (Ultimate Mastering Bundle).

I've had CSR for over a year and seldom use it. I bought ArtsAcoustic Reverb about 4 months ago and have used it more often already. (BTW, I just found this 6 year old thread http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130895&postday s=0&postorder=asc&start=0 )

For your guitar needs you may want to try Overloud's SpringAge, especially when they have their 40% off promos.

CSR does not work with some hosts, so definitely try before you buy. I do like CSR and think its worth the $50. I probably would spend my money elsewhere, though.


Spring Age is the best spring reverb hands down, and BRILLIANT on guitars Smile And so inexpensive especially as you said on their regular sales Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:23 am reply with quote
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Ah Xoc Kin wrote:
As mentioned earlier, you can count on IK products being regularly discounted. I remember CSR being $99, including T-Racks (Ultimate Mastering Bundle).

I've had CSR for over a year and seldom use it. I bought ArtsAcoustic Reverb about 4 months ago and have used it more often already. (BTW, I just found this 6 year old thread http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130895&postday s=0&postorder=asc&start=0 )

For your guitar needs you may want to try Overloud's SpringAge, especially when they have their 40% off promos.

CSR does not work with some hosts, so definitely try before you buy. I do like CSR and think its worth the $50. I probably would spend my money elsewhere, though.


Spring Age is the best spring reverb hands down, and BRILLIANT on guitars Smile And so inexpensive especially as you said on their regular sales Smile


And one thing I loved about Overloud is that they allowed me to combine offers, so when I bought TH2, SprinAge, and Mark Studio I was able to get their sale price and their academic discount.
When I had a problem, their customer support was excellent. IIRC I got replies the same day or the next day, and everything was solved quickly and to my complete satisfaction.

With IK, they don't even allow the use of Jam Points with their offers.
In terms of support I don't want to be harsh with IK. They were polite and said things like "Thanks for your patience. Our apologies for the delays."
The fact remains that they did not honor the terms of a promotion they had. IIRC, the promo was buy 1 get 2 additional titles. In summary, CSR was an eligible product for the promo. T-Racks was also an elegible product for the promo. I bought them bundled and the bundle was not eligible Rolling Eyes This was not mentioned in the terms of the promo or in the list of excluded products.

In the end, I was allowed to get 2 titles for free instead of 4 (2 for CSR and 2 for T-Racks.) They were courteous and friendly, but I still ended with less than what their website had advertised.
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