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Uncle E wrote: hollowsun wrote: One could say much the same for NI. Their licensing costs are prohibitively expensive for the smaller developer.
Do they charge per title or is it simply a flat fee for the right to make Kontakt libraries. Per title AIUI |
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If NI ever stops authorizing Kontakt you can throw all those expensive libraries away  |
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What makes you think that will happen? Kontakt is an extremely important product for NI. |
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EvilDragon wrote: What makes you think that will happen? Kontakt is an extremely important product for NI.
I'm not saying it will happen, but that it could. Just ask anyone who ever bought from Kjaerhus Audio. Anyway, that's just where I draw the line. Especially if a lot of expensive 3rd party products are dependant. |
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T-CM11 wrote: EvilDragon wrote: T-CM11 wrote: If NI ever stops authorizing Kontakt you can throw all those expensive libraries away What makes you think that will happen? Kontakt is an extremely important product for NI.I'm not saying it will happen, but that it could. Just ask anyone who ever bought from Kjaerhus Audio. Anyway, that's just where I draw the line. Especially if a lot of expensive 3rd party products are dependant. As is the case with just about any software you buy that is not tied to a dongle. 
You mustn't buy a lot of software if that is the case. ---- My main tools: Alchemy, Kontakt, Omnisphere, Padshop Pro and WIVI. |
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ben_horwood wrote: You mustn't buy a lot of software if that is the case. Sure I do. And only my Korg Legacy Collection and Halion Sonic uses a dongle. And that dongle will still work if Korg and Steinberg's servers are down. At least *I* have control over it. The only sound libraries I buy are the Alchemy ones = DRM free. |
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What about all your other C/R software that you own then?
Anyway I know I feel a lot safer dealing with C/R and the minimal risk of a major software vendor going under, than I would about losing a USB dongle with all my authorizations on it, like I consistantly manage to do with all my USB sticks. One more consideration for you: DRM free DOES NOT equal safe. Just look at Gigastudio. ---- My main tools: Alchemy, Kontakt, Omnisphere, Padshop Pro and WIVI. |
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ben_horwood wrote: Anyway I know I feel a lot safer dealing with C/R and the minimal risk of a major software vendor going under, than I would about losing a USB dongle with all my authorizations on it, like I consistantly manage to do with all my USB sticks. Install it inside your computer. |
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T-CM11 wrote: If NI ever stops authorizing Kontakt you can throw all those expensive libraries away
If NI create an Ebola variant which kills everyon who doesnt use Kontakt, then things will be worse. I'm not saying it will happen, but that it could. |
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ben_horwood wrote: What about all your other C/R software that you own then?
Anyway I know I feel a lot safer dealing with C/R and the minimal risk of a major software vendor going under, than I would about losing a USB dongle with all my authorizations on it, like I consistantly manage to do with all my USB sticks. I don't own any C/R software. I have: Alchemy, Vaz+, FL Studio & a lot of Image Line plugins, Fabfilter Twin 1/2/Volcano 1/2/Timeless 1/2, 4x Ohmforce, AudioDamage, D16, Linplug, ... and much more... All of them use no C/R or dongles. And I don't lose USB sticks  Last edited by T-CM11 on Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:56 am; edited 1 time in total |
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whyterabbyt wrote: If NI create an Ebola variant which kills everyon who doesnt use Kontakt, then things will be worse. I'm not saying it will happen, but that it could. Has this ever happened before? Because my example has, more than once. |
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T-CM11 wrote: whyterabbyt wrote: If NI create an Ebola variant which kills everyon who doesnt use Kontakt, then things will be worse. I'm not saying it will happen, but that it could. Has this ever happened before? Because my example has, more than once. What, one of the largest audio software development companies in the world folding suddenly? |
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Derailment split, or part of it anyway. Back to discussing Kontakt as a "standard" sample player, please, not trying to come up with absurd worst-case scenarios. |
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A quick look in the KVR news section, and there are still some non-Kontakt or Kontakt + others goodies floating around, like this for Live:
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/passion-bass-by-the-control- centre It will be interesting to see what the BitWig guys come up with for sampling - it looks like they are geared towards being a complete solution (especially with the Max-for-Live-like extensibility), so my guess is something full-featured, but there being no open standard for sample-based instruments, I wonder what route they will take. I'll probably bite the bullet and purchase Kontakt - I own other NI products and have no concerns about the quality, etc. But it's another investment in a proprietary product. |
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hollowsun wrote: Per title AIUI
In that case, could sample developers pool their libraries to create big Kontakt Player products. ---- Redeem the 10% "FORUM" and 15% "GROUP" coupons at:  |
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