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Dean Aka Nekro
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:59 pm reply with quote
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:15 pm reply with quote
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:50 pm reply with quote
Oh wait, I see.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:54 pm reply with quote
braj wrote:
spirit wrote:
Templates? I just add as many instances as I need on separate tracks in Reaper and off I go. What am I missing?


Each instance will chew up more RAM, no? If you only add one and use the multi feature you should save resources, have less window clutter when working (just switch between instruments in Omni) but in Reaper this will take a little planning to make it really easy to work with AFAIK. I have low RAM and so with Trilian I am usually only using one instance at a time myself, maybe two tracks of a multi at the most.


Not quite. Each instance uses only 1 core so if you max out 1 instance (multi) with 8 patches then you will hear crackles as the core cannot handle all of the patches. On the other hand, if you load 4-6 patches in 1 mutli and then load another instance of Omnisphere and load 4-6 patches there, it is better CPU wise since the other instance will use a different core.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:07 am reply with quote
yairhol wrote:
braj wrote:
spirit wrote:
Templates? I just add as many instances as I need on separate tracks in Reaper and off I go. What am I missing?


Each instance will chew up more RAM, no? If you only add one and use the multi feature you should save resources, have less window clutter when working (just switch between instruments in Omni) but in Reaper this will take a little planning to make it really easy to work with AFAIK. I have low RAM and so with Trilian I am usually only using one instance at a time myself, maybe two tracks of a multi at the most.


Not quite. Each instance uses only 1 core so if you max out 1 instance (multi) with 8 patches then you will hear crackles as the core cannot handle all of the patches. On the other hand, if you load 4-6 patches in 1 mutli and then load another instance of Omnisphere and load 4-6 patches there, it is better CPU wise since the other instance will use a different core.


Thanks for explaining that, so it basically becomes a RAM vs. CPU decision then? The more instances the more RAM overhead for each patch, but the lighter it will be on each CPU?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:52 am reply with quote
its a good idea to distribute the load over severalcores in a multicore setup.
In my template i have 4 Omnisphere instances for pads, arps, leads and FX.
I usually end up layering 2 pads, 2-3 leads and use a handful of arps and FX on seperate channels.
This gives me the smoothest distribution over 4 cores.
I am running a 64 bit system so RAM isnt really any problem for me.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:37 am reply with quote
Thanks for that Doc. Very interesting! In that example I posted every Omni was a separate instance.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:18 pm reply with quote
Totally disappointing, there just are not enough sounds HiHi I mean, it's not like going through the "raw" parts with a simple delay send sound good or anything HiHi

Yeah, I've already exhausted all the possibilities. What a dud HiHi

On a serious note, I think I'm about to get through the "A's" HiHi
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:26 pm reply with quote
Well now I don't feel bad about being broke. Damn you Omnisphere, see this PROVES you are over-rated! Bwahahaha!
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:14 pm reply with quote
Y'know, if you decide the 'B's aren't good enough for you, you can throw Omni in with that interface I'll be buying from you. HiHi
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:18 pm reply with quote
Gonga wrote:
Congrats Hib! Omnisphere is one very, very fun synth to ... have fun with!

JPQ wrote:
ps. i not guitarist and to me zebra sounds different when compared omnisphere there is not thing called perfect sounding synth for all uses.


I agree with all you say here. What I have tested and found to be true though is that U-He analog synthesis sounds smoother and less aliased. In particular, I have compared Omnisphere to ACE and Diva, and both ACE and Diva have very noticably smoother-sounding sync sweeps, whereas Omnisphere's sync sweeps have very noticable harsh aliasing. Some people prefer aliasing and there's nothing wrong with that, but the fact remains that U-He synths sound more like authentic analog than Omnisphere in my opinion, and in the past I have posted numerous comparison recordings to back up this opinion. I use Jan Hammer-style polyphonic sync sweep a lot (ala Oberheim SEM and Memorymoog), and find Omnisphere does not deliver that sound, while Diva not only delivers that sound but does so literally perfectly to my ears. Nevertheless, Omnisphere is one of my favorite and most-used synths, but not for analog sounds, as ACE and Diva fit that bill better. I use Omnisphere for sampled sounds almost exclusively (same with Trillian).


Which sort of makes it an expensive sampler with a large, and admittedly well executed, sound library.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:27 pm reply with quote
Never made it through the "A"s yet. Thank god for the "Shuffle" button! Phew
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:28 pm reply with quote
Keep in mind that Kontakt's SRP is $399 in the US and once you buy one good sample library it brings it to over $500.

That is, if you didn't buy it with Komplete, which I'm not sure why you would at that price. But I bought mine as a crossgrade from Kontakt Player.

Still, Kontakt libraries add up quick.

However ( HiHi ), you can load and manipulate your own samples in Kontakt.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:30 pm reply with quote
4lb Kitty wrote:
Y'know, if you decide the 'B's aren't good enough for you, you can throw Omni in with that interface I'll be buying from you. HiHi


Actually, my offer still stands if you find ANY of the letters to be below your standards. HiHi
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:37 pm reply with quote
ghettosynth wrote:
Gonga wrote:
Congrats Hib! Omnisphere is one very, very fun synth to ... have fun with!

JPQ wrote:
ps. i not guitarist and to me zebra sounds different when compared omnisphere there is not thing called perfect sounding synth for all uses.


I agree with all you say here. What I have tested and found to be true though is that U-He analog synthesis sounds smoother and less aliased. In particular, I have compared Omnisphere to ACE and Diva, and both ACE and Diva have very noticably smoother-sounding sync sweeps, whereas Omnisphere's sync sweeps have very noticable harsh aliasing. Some people prefer aliasing and there's nothing wrong with that, but the fact remains that U-He synths sound more like authentic analog than Omnisphere in my opinion, and in the past I have posted numerous comparison recordings to back up this opinion. I use Jan Hammer-style polyphonic sync sweep a lot (ala Oberheim SEM and Memorymoog), and find Omnisphere does not deliver that sound, while Diva not only delivers that sound but does so literally perfectly to my ears. Nevertheless, Omnisphere is one of my favorite and most-used synths, but not for analog sounds, as ACE and Diva fit that bill better. I use Omnisphere for sampled sounds almost exclusively (same with Trillian).


Which sort of makes it an expensive sampler with a large, and admittedly well executed, sound library.


Yes, but that's just from my perspective. I feel the same way about Trillian. For a fretless bass it's un freakin real, but U-He synths are better-sounding and more flexible for VA bass. As a sampler, I find it much more fun to use and more user-friendly than Kontakt for instance. I use Kontakt more than Omnisphere, but only because I have so many libraries for it. I wish I could use those libraries within Omnisphere. It's lack of importing capability is a huge bummer. My favorite Spectrasonic product is RMX by far, but both Omnisphere and Trillian just plain deliver in terms of atmosphere and bass like no other programs I've ever used. If I'm looking for a sound, I type the description into Omni and get a number of hits, a bunch are useful, and one of them will be more perfect than anything else I can usually find elsewhere.
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