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So, earlier, when I was describing the awesomeness of my US-800, everyone pretty much dismissed it as lame, because it requires a 120 volt power connection. I suppose that is a valid complaint, but I don't really use it as a mobile DAW, like you all are thinking. I use it so that I can record my iPad in the studio using SPDIF. I just want a pristine 44.1khz/16bit digital connection from my iPad into Ableton live so that I can record soft synths like Animoog and Sunrizer.
That is one of the major use cases of these interfaces. With MIDI and SPDIF, you can add it into your studio just like any other hardware synth. Hey, a $300 used iPad 1 with Sunrizer on it just became the equivalent of a rocking hardware synth... This is definitely a gamechanger. |
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Storms wrote: Btw, dixie, I've found that a lot of audio cards using the camera connection kit will get flaky if plugged/unplugged multiple times. Sometimes you actually have to unplug everything and restart the iPad to get it to see an external audio interface again. This is probably either a bug in some implementations of class compliant audio or a bug in the core audio drivers. For this reason, when I'm using the iPad in the studio (I do exactly the same thing as you - SPDIF into Ableton Live), I set the auto lock screen saver to never and leave it turned on the entire session. The iPad battery is 10 hours easily so I've never run out of juice, and this prevents losing a connection and having to go through a painful reboot process.
Another small nitpick I've had with class compliant audio is that sometimes when initially plugging in the camera connection kit, you get high latency, like 200ms between a key press on a virtual synth and the sound. I've never had these problems with either of the interfaces I've tried: AH Zed10FX, Vox Tonelab ST. In fact, the major downside of CCK is that connector constantly works its way free. I just pop it back in and go. Happens a half dozen times a night some nights. Still, I have never rebooted my Ipad3 since owning it. |
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So...Amazon kept showing me lower and lower prices on the iU2, and one thing lead to another...
Anyhow, I received my iU2 today. I've only monitored through it so far--in Garageband IOS and Studio One Win64 via ASIO4ALL. I'll try to do some tracking tonight. So far, my impressions are very positive. The build quality is much better than I expected, given some of the reviews. It looks and feels like quality gear, imo. In addition, my "MON MIX" knob is the only one that exhibits the friction mentioned by a few reviewers--the rest move smoothly. I have to wonder if this isn't by design? I also purchased a 6' Cablejive Xtender with the unit, given the chord length is a legitimate gripe. Works great, and is a highly recommended accessory. |
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jjmcjj wrote: So...Amazon kept showing me lower and lower prices on the iU2, and one thing lead to another...
Tell me if you don't mind, having the other interfaces worked fine with the CCK (leaving aside the fact of re-plugging the little devil from time to time, for instance your Zed10FX, what are the main points that lead you to purchase the IU2? ---- What better religion than music itself? |
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kpsychedelic wrote: jjmcjj wrote: So...Amazon kept showing me lower and lower prices on the iU2, and one thing lead to another...
Tell me if you don't mind, having the other interfaces worked fine with the CCK (leaving aside the fact of re-plugging the little devil from time to time, for instance your Zed10FX, what are the main points that lead you to purchase the IU2? Two main things: 1) FULLY portable, without need for AC power--my other solutions both require it; 2) Digital (SPDIF) output, for high-quality capture of some of the output of non-export friendly apps (Garageband, i.e.). Turns out 2) is really a moot point--I can open .band files on a Win7 PC and access the .aif files inside. Combine this with Garageband's "merge" function (really a render + bounce facility), and there is no need to record track by track over the SPDIF as I had originally envisioned. Too bad I figured this out yesterday. |
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Storms wrote: Btw, dixie, I've found that a lot of audio cards using the camera connection kit will get flaky if plugged/unplugged multiple times. Sometimes you actually have to unplug everything and restart the iPad to get it to see an external audio interface again. This is probably either a bug in some implementations of class compliant audio or a bug in the core audio drivers. For this reason, when I'm using the iPad in the studio (I do exactly the same thing as you - SPDIF into Ableton Live), I set the auto lock screen saver to never and leave it turned on the entire session. The iPad battery is 10 hours easily so I've never run out of juice, and this prevents losing a connection and having to go through a painful reboot process.
Exactly right storms, strangely though when I first had a connection issue, I did a complete reboot and didn't work. However now at every fresh session start with fully charged iPad, onto lock off, it's been as good as gold. I'm enjoying great sound out of the iPad. D |
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jjmcjj wrote: kpsychedelic wrote: jjmcjj wrote: So...Amazon kept showing me lower and lower prices on the iU2, and one thing lead to another...
Tell me if you don't mind, having the other interfaces worked fine with the CCK (leaving aside the fact of re-plugging the little devil from time to time, for instance your Zed10FX, what are the main points that lead you to purchase the IU2? Two main things: 1) FULLY portable, without need for AC power--my other solutions both require it; 2) Digital (SPDIF) output, for high-quality capture of some of the output of non-export friendly apps (Garageband, i.e.). Turns out 2) is really a moot point--I can open .band files on a Win7 PC and access the .aif files inside. Combine this with Garageband's "merge" function (really a render + bounce facility), and there is no need to record track by track over the SPDIF as I had originally envisioned. Too bad I figured this out yesterday. Ah ok thanks for the insight. Number 2 indeed could sound pretty nice but as you say if the high-q files can be taken from the guts then that's a pretty workaround that won't require any audio interface. I was thinking also MIDI but then other people convinced me to just use the CCK and I think it was you who first (and probably only one?) who mentioned the ZED10 way back on this topic so I already have a working killer solution for my needs without the need for the IU2. Good thing. Also it's kinda big which I did not like (not like we did not know that since its announcement). ---- What better religion than music itself? |
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kpsychedelic wrote: Ah ok thanks for the insight. Number 2 indeed could sound pretty nice but as you say if the high-q files can be taken from the guts then that's a pretty workaround that won't require any audio interface.
I was thinking also MIDI but then other people convinced me to just use the CCK and I think it was you who first (and probably only one?) who mentioned the ZED10 way back on this topic so I already have a working killer solution for my needs without the need for the IU2. Good thing. Also it's kinda big which I did not like (not like we did not know that since its announcement). Yeah, the iU2 midi in works great. Haven't tried midi out yet. The ease of using midi together with the interface is another major benefit. BUT, you can also use USB midi devices together with the Zed10FX. Just plug both into a powered hub, and then plug the hub into the ipad via CCK. I've had my Akai LPK25 (USB) as well as my MicroKorg (standard 5 pin midi, using M-Audio UNO midi interface) working this way, while simultaneously using the Zed10FX as an audio interface. Apparently the ipad is finicky as to which hubs work. I dunno, since I bought one from a list of known to work models on one of the IOS sites. |
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jjmcjj wrote: Apparently the ipad is finicky as to which hubs work. I dunno, since I bought one from a list of known to work models on one of the IOS sites. Thanks, that's a good point, will make sure to get a recommended one. ---- What better religion than music itself? |
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Has this interface been reviewed anywhere yet? Outside of this thread it seems to have fallen off the radar somewhat since being announced. I was hoping this interface was going to be the answer to my iOS connection needs. Still not sure if I should be still looking at this as an option. |
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I'm also waiting for hands-on reviews on MIDI performance, guitar and bass connection, stability, total I/O latency ... |
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iratu wrote: I'm also waiting for hands-on reviews on MIDI performance, guitar and bass connection, stability, total I/O latency ...
There are some user reviews on Amazon but they are mostly not favourable to say the least; http://www.amazon.com/TASCAM-iU2-Channel-Audio-Interface/pro duct-reviews/B0073AJ39E/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_summary/189-056 1877-7429567?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDat eDescending |
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Dogboy73 wrote: iratu wrote: I'm also waiting for hands-on reviews on MIDI performance, guitar and bass connection, stability, total I/O latency ...
There are some user reviews on Amazon but they are mostly not favourable to say the least; http://www.amazon.com/TASCAM-iU2-Channel-Audio-Interface/pro duct-reviews/B0073AJ39E/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_summary/189-056 1877-7429567?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDat eDescending There's way more concrete information in this very thread than in any of the Amazon reviews. In fact, I believe two of the five reviewers have posted in this thread with elaborations on their reviews. |
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jjmcjj wrote: Apparently the ipad is finicky as to which hubs work. I dunno, since I bought one from a list of known to work models on one of the IOS sites. By the way, which one you got? ---- What better religion than music itself? |
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kpsychedelic wrote: jjmcjj wrote: Apparently the ipad is finicky as to which hubs work. I dunno, since I bought one from a list of known to work models on one of the IOS sites. By the way, which one you got? Belkin 4 port powered hub: http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?&Product_Id=6 08492&subid=357371 One correction: My iU2 does NOT function well with the extender cable, which introduces crackles and distortion. It works perfectly without it, though. |
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