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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 5:33 am reply with quote
deep'n'dark wrote:
I don't wanna hear my music next to hardware in a car, cos when I do I feel like I've been radically failed in terms of soundquality. I want rest of you cry out loud with me. Crying or Very sad


Stop crying ya whining baby! Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:23 am reply with quote
I would say about 99% of pop/commercial tracks from the past 20 years or so heard in a car or elsewhere make me groan becuase to me the sound is just annoying crud.

Big poppy vocal numbers make me want to cut my ears off.

Then I can go on youtube and hear something that is litle more than an 808 kick drum and a clap and a bleep and it sounds damn good.

So maybe someone out there will absolutely love your stuff and I'd probably rather hear it than any "hardware" produced Britney/Kylie/R&B/boyband/Swedish House Mafiaesque whatever.

If you're producing/mixing/mastering in your bedroom you should be able to get quite close to the sound of many lo-fi/arty/indy/home studio producers.

Listen to some early Chicago House - produced by people who didn't have the stuff you have, didn't have the internets and didn't have "how to..." books, videos, sample cds, magazines. They invented the sound in a matter of days and weeks.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:32 am reply with quote
How do you know that what you're hearing is hardware? I'd think the vast majority of young producers making and releasing stuff comparable to yours are 100% in the box. Every artist my crew's label have put a record out by (bar one) certainly is.

edit: One of them even uses... gasp... FL Studio!
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:35 am reply with quote
Btw,

if I'm listening to music coming out of my TV, on the radio or on youtube it's nearly always impossible for me to tell if something is "hardware" or not.

That short snare in the drums?

is it from a Synth?
from a real drum kit?
Sample of a real drum kit?
sample of a snare from a drum machine?
processed through a 20 million dollar reverb?
or a free vst reverb?

is it even a snare? or a pitched up drum hit or a pitched up sample of a coke can being struck with a stick?

Can't tell. Without looking into the producers/bands studio/bedroom/DAW I can't tell.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:46 am reply with quote
george wrote:
deep'n'dark wrote:
I don't wanna hear my music next to hardware in a car, cos when I do I feel like I've been radically failed in terms of soundquality. I want rest of you cry out loud with me. Crying or Very sad

What are you making music for? I think comparing home studio music to million dollar productions isn't fair at all.

indeed, kinda, may be (its been said before) its the "composer". Many of us who have had $200, bought Zebra, only one person who I am aware has used Zebra in a "pro/ million dollar" set up, Hanz Zimmer, for 98% of the inception sound track.Hmmm, software or hardware ?? Use both? Does not matter.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:04 pm reply with quote
I find all of this weird because everything I do sounds exactly like billions of dollars worth of hardware. Also, wads of cash shoot out of my disk drive and women fall over each other to see me on stage.

Clearly, something is wrong with all of you.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:34 pm reply with quote
With today's software, you can make great music with great production quality using just about anything. Software vs. Hardware is totally irrelevant. It sounds to me as if you just need to spend a lot more time practicing your craft. Also, keep in mind that most big commercial productions are group efforts, with numerous musicians, producers, and engineers contributing to the final product.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:10 pm reply with quote
AcidDean wrote:

Listen to some early Chicago House - produced by people who didn't have the stuff you have, didn't have the internets and didn't have "how to..." books, videos, sample cds, magazines. They invented the sound in a matter of days and weeks.


no they certainly did not.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:58 pm reply with quote
they are just different ways to do something
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