I tested the 32-bit version in both Live and PT and SM is still totally unstable on my system. Crashed both programs with just me changing presets. I don't know what is causing all this crashing. Bulent should I submit something to you on this? Maybe there's something wrong on my end (although everything else is running smooth). I'm totally sidelined I can't even use it at this point.

Send me the crash log if you can. So far I can not reproduce crashes.

I decided to wait and try the next update but I'm still getting the same thing: immediate crash in Ableton Live with 2.5.4.140. I get SM on a midi track, hit the record button on the track...hit one note on my controller and BAM Live goes down. Tried both VST and AU with same result. Pretty much the same in Pro Tools 8.0.5 although it did make some sound on a patch or two but other patches produced some sound before crashing. I'm wondering if I should just re-install the full version of SM instead of just installing the updates. How can I uninstall SM completely?

Also where can I find the PT crash log folder? I'll send you the Ableton crash Log too.

Sent Ableton crash reports. Also should mention that I had to boost the PT buffer setting to 1024 to get it to stop telling me that PT had lost contact with the interface.

Did a full re-install of SM..looks like it fixed it! Whew cool finally up and running with the rest of you. Thanks Bulent!

Is it still unstable with version 2.5.4.141 ?