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VST, AU, etc. plug-in Virtual Instruments discussion

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As a producer, sound designer and/or musician, would this application be useful in your current workflow or creative process?

Yes
151
83%
No
31
17%
 
Total votes : 182
DNR Collaborative
KVRian
 
657 posts since 23 May, 2011

Postby DNR Collaborative; Tue May 15, 2012 11:40 am

Well, we've made it to nearly a page without any compaints on the UI, so I think we're in the clear with that discussion :D


Steven
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PietW.
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662 posts since 6 May, 2010, from Munich, Germany

Postby PietW.; Tue May 15, 2012 11:59 am

DNR Collaborative wrote:Just to also clarify, currently the export format will be a 2048 sample cycle, but we are also interested in other formats that designers/users would like to export to. We crrently only have Camel Audio's Alchemy on the list, but are also looking into other formats. If anyone has a specific format that is required, please do let us know.


Steven


Alchemy needs the RAW-Format or Wav files with at least 20 periodic passages.
Alchemy can not import a single cycle waves.
LeVzi
KVRAF
 
1715 posts since 7 Jul, 2008, from Cardiff, Wales, UK

Postby LeVzi; Tue May 15, 2012 12:06 pm

DNR Collaborative wrote:
LeVzi wrote:+1 for randomize waveform, and the addition of a create insane waveform ;) lol


I'm not 100% sure about the 'create insane waveform' button, but I imagine it would be something that could be looked into :)


Steven


haha, yeah maybe insane is something a bit OTT , but definately something a lot more random than the norm. Definitely something to look out for :)
KBSoundSmith
KVRist
 
455 posts since 6 Jul, 2009

Postby KBSoundSmith; Tue May 15, 2012 12:07 pm

PietW. wrote:
DNR Collaborative wrote:Just to also clarify, currently the export format will be a 2048 sample cycle, but we are also interested in other formats that designers/users would like to export to. We crrently only have Camel Audio's Alchemy on the list, but are also looking into other formats. If anyone has a specific format that is required, please do let us know.


Steven


Alchemy needs the RAW-Format or Wav files with at least 20 periodic passages.
Alchemy can not import a single cycle waves.


That's true. However, Camel Audio does have a utility on their user section at the CA website that let's you import one cycle, and the utility does the rest of the work for you (I believe it was someone here at KVR who made it up).

Just looked it up, it's called Wave 2 Alchemy.

edit: Oh yeah, the project seems great by the way, :lol: . Looking forward to it; I'll have to think a bit about suggestions and get back to you.
Last edited by KBSoundSmith on Tue May 15, 2012 12:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Wildfunk
KVRian
 
715 posts since 26 Sep, 2008

Postby Wildfunk; Tue May 15, 2012 12:07 pm

Is it a plugin or a standalone tool?

If standalone: Generate random waveforms and save them via batch to file.
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dalor
KVRAF
 
2506 posts since 1 Dec, 2004, from Sydney, Australia

Postby dalor; Tue May 15, 2012 12:09 pm

It would be great to have a spectrum-meter strip on top or underneath which displays the harmonic range the waveform.
It only updates when changes to the waveform are made, realtime would be nice to have but not necessary. For example a perfect sine curve should have a mark in the front of the spectrum-meter, a noisy waveform should have marks all over the place.
Cowbells!
ChiTown24
KVRian
 
757 posts since 8 Jan, 2012

Postby ChiTown24; Tue May 15, 2012 12:14 pm

confirming that Alchemy uses .raw for importing cycles as OSCs and LFOs


likewise Absynth for LFO and OSC uses the .gly format
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George
KVRAF
 
2461 posts since 17 Jul, 2002

Postby George; Tue May 15, 2012 12:18 pm

You can use WAV as OSC waveform with Discovery Pro. Only requirement is loop points with minimum size of 128 samples. Take that as a feature request :)
DNR Collaborative
KVRian
 
657 posts since 23 May, 2011

Postby DNR Collaborative; Tue May 15, 2012 12:27 pm

ChiTown24 wrote:formats to work with;;

Alchemy already mentioned

Cakewalk Rapture (i think it uses plain .wavs?)

Vember Audio Surge
up to 1024
file extension .WT (or .wav for windows users)

FAW Circle
2048 (not sure if its fixed length)
file extension .WDF

would be great to be able to import/export from the various wavecycle/table formats.

decent batch operation of any import/export functions would be great

customizable naming conventions for output files
(so i could export for example 3 octaves of individual wavecycles named by note, or number, with perhaps a custom prefix or two)

ability to output (collections of) wavecycles as soundfonts too

ability to import an audio file of any length, and have the application automatically/randomly select a designated number of wavecycles

ability to import an audio file of any length and scrub through it with a fixed window size of 2048 or 1024 etc to find desirable wavecycles


will post more ideas later :)

and osx compatibility of course! :)


Wow, thanks for the suggestions :)

ChiTown24 wrote:U-He Zebra
2048 (if im not mistaken it creates a wavetable a size of 16 cycles with a length of 128 samples each adding up to a total of 2048, or is it a wavtable of 8 cycles of 128 adding up to 1024 ?)
file extension .h2p

I don't know if this will be added though, as we have sent e-mails to Urs with no response, so for now it will have to wait until a later version.


Steven
BDeep
KVRAF
 
1720 posts since 13 Feb, 2012, from Amsterdam

Postby BDeep; Tue May 15, 2012 12:46 pm

Wow! This is excellent! Been wanting something like this for use with FAW Circle. They provide an importer tool, so being able to export it in their native format is nice, but not nessescaraly. Tried loading some Galbanum demo wavecycles though and some didn't translate well to the synth (as in: it appeared as a square, but the original definitely wasn't).
I presume this will be available for OS X as well?

Since you're open to suggestions:
Being able to import and modify exsisting waves
A manual in which different "classes" of waveforms are explained with their formulas, and how elements of this formula affect the waveform. Would be extremely useful for a dummy like myself (then again, maybe you don't make this tool for dummy's ;-)

Anyway, looking forward to it!
DNR Collaborative
KVRian
 
657 posts since 23 May, 2011

Postby DNR Collaborative; Tue May 15, 2012 12:47 pm

PietW. wrote:Alchemy needs the RAW-Format or Wav files with at least 20 periodic passages. Alchemy can not import a single cycle waves.

We found the info for proper converting to Alchemy's WaveOsc and WaveLFO formats on the Camel Audio page :) Thank you for the info!

Wildfunk wrote:Is it a plugin or a standalone tool? If standalone: Generate random waveforms and save them via batch to file.

It's a VSTi instrument, but I believe it is possible to do this anyways :)

dalor wrote:It would be great to have a spectrum-meter strip on top or underneath which displays the harmonic range the waveform.
It only updates when changes to the waveform are made, realtime would be nice to have but not necessary. For example a perfect sine curve should have a mark in the front of the spectrum-meter, a noisy waveform should have marks all over the place.

Noted :)

ChiTown24 wrote:confirming that Alchemy uses .raw for importing cycles as OSCs and LFOs

likewise Absynth for LFO and OSC uses the .gly format

Thanks for the info, I did not know anything about Absynth at all :)

george wrote:You can use WAV as OSC waveform with Discovery Pro. Only requirement is loop points with minimum size of 128 samples. Take that as a feature request :)

Great, thanks for the information George :)


Steven
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toitoi
KVRist
 
315 posts since 15 Sep, 2005

Postby toitoi; Tue May 15, 2012 12:58 pm

Single OCS formats:
Big Tick Rhino
Imageline's Harmor
ImageLine Toxic
Kv331audio SynthMaster
jowen
KVRist
 
50 posts since 16 Jun, 2009

Postby jowen; Tue May 15, 2012 1:13 pm

old but usefull, did you know this:

Rndwave! 1.2 - 16/24-bit Wave Shape Generator

You can get it here, a little down the page:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jez.price/effects.htm

found it on the numerology five12 page

with some free waveforms also.

jowen
DNR Collaborative
KVRian
 
657 posts since 23 May, 2011

Postby DNR Collaborative; Tue May 15, 2012 1:25 pm

jowen wrote:old but usefull, did you know this:

Rndwave! 1.2 - 16/24-bit Wave Shape Generator


I personally did not know about this particular application, but I'm sure it has already been taken into consideration by those creating the software during the research process prior to development. I personally am not familiar enough with the technical details to make much of a distinction myself :?


Steven
DNR Collaborative
KVRian
 
657 posts since 23 May, 2011

Postby DNR Collaborative; Tue May 15, 2012 1:39 pm

toitoi wrote:Single OCS formats:
Big Tick Rhino
Imageline's Harmor
ImageLine Toxic
Kv331audio SynthMaster


Ah, thank you for the information. I'll pass it along and see if we can find out what the differences are :)


Steven
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