Plug-ins, Hosts, Apps,
Hardware, Soundware
Developers
(Brands)
Videos Groups
Whats's in?
Banks & Patches
Download & Upload
Music Search
KVR
   
KVR Forum » Instruments
Thread Read
analog vs digital vs...
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
fisherKing
KVRian
- profile
- pm
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 2:44 pm reply with quote
just a humble rant.

all this talk about how analog a plugin sounds (or doesn't). what difference does it really make?
isn't the real issue "does this plugin sound good to ME or not?" i mean, who cares if it's diva or a real juno106, or a nexus preset, or...?? not the LISTENER.

music isn't just for other music makers, it's for...everyone else (well, AND the music makers). someone is moved by your music...or they aren't. outside of music-making nerds (i.e. most of us), or computer geeks (again LOL, most of us), no one cares whether it's a drummer or addictive drums, whether the bassline was quantized or not, whether you made your own sounds on a synth plugin or used factory presets.

hey, the discussion is the reason we're on these forums to begin with, and that's all good. but music is ultimately about MUSIC; it's the big picture, and the details are just...details.

now back to our regularly scheduled arguments I MEAN discussions...

PEACE! Very Happy
^ Joined: 06 Aug 2009  Member: #212870  
JD Gaffe
KVRian
- profile
- pm
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 2:52 pm reply with quote
The difference is people generally like the sound of analog. Not that hard to understand.

We really don't need another topic on this.
^ Joined: 27 Sep 2010  Member: #240439  
mcnoone
KVRAF
- profile
- pm
- www
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 2:54 pm reply with quote
fisherKing wrote:

hey, the discussion is the reason we're on these forums to begin with, and that's all good.
now back to our regularly scheduled arguments I MEAN discussions...

Well there's the answer.
I mean, what else are we gonna do...make music?...make sounds?...make plugins?
^ Joined: 08 Oct 2007  Member: #162477  Location: a inharmonious society
mcnoone
KVRAF
- profile
- pm
- www
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 2:56 pm reply with quote
JD Gaffe wrote:
The difference is people generally like the sound of analog. Not that hard to understand.


Prove it.
^ Joined: 08 Oct 2007  Member: #162477  Location: a inharmonious society
Tricky-Loops
KVRAF
- profile
- pm
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:10 pm reply with quote
fisherKing wrote:

music isn't just for other music makers, it's for...everyone else (well, AND the music makers). someone is moved by your music...or they aren't. outside of music-making nerds (i.e. most of us), or computer geeks (again LOL, most of us), no one cares whether it's a drummer or addictive drums, whether the bassline was quantized or not, whether you made your own sounds on a synth plugin or used factory presets.


First, music makers are music listeners, too...Smile

But the main reason for the analog-digital-battle is that the analog guys wanna show off with all these expensive hardware synths and effect units and they feel much better stumbling over their Juno 106 even if they can't make good music.

Make a photo from a studio with loads of analog gear, and everyone is impressed. Make a photo from all your digital software synths and effects -- you can't, right??

Good music is good music, bad music is bad music. If I'd make a real groovy song out of free Musicradar samples, nobody would know that. But it would be great music.
^ Joined: 12 Mar 2012  Member: #276810  Location: South Bavaria - near the alps... :-)
Doug1978
KVRian
- profile
- pm
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:13 pm reply with quote
analog vs digital vs my arse.
^ Joined: 19 Jun 2011  Member: #259079  Location: Sendai, Japan
1-2-Many
KVRAF
- profile
- pm
- www
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:15 pm reply with quote
Saying "Digital" does not soley imply Software as Digital lives in hardware too Wink

Some of my favorite Hardware synths are DIGITAL
^ Joined: 22 Feb 2004  Member: #13429  Location: Planet Earth...for now
KBSoundSmith
KVRist
- profile
- pm
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:22 pm reply with quote
JD Gaffe wrote:
The difference is people generally like the sound of analog. Not that hard to understand.

We really don't need another topic on this.


Ever play an old video game system? Those 8-bit sounds were awesome. No seriously, they were. Different sounds for different music.

And honestly, everyone turning Moog filters, etc, into a fetish gets pretty annoying quickly.
^ Joined: 06 Jul 2009  Member: #210853  
1-2-Many
KVRAF
- profile
- pm
- www
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:26 pm reply with quote
Doug1978(tempID) wrote:
analog vs digital vs my arse.
But the output from your arse IS Anal-log
^ Joined: 22 Feb 2004  Member: #13429  Location: Planet Earth...for now
Tricky-Loops
KVRAF
- profile
- pm
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:30 pm reply with quote
1-2-Many wrote:
Doug1978(tempID) wrote:
analog vs digital vs my arse.
But the output from your arse IS Anal-log


With Anal-log you can Dig-it-all! HiHi
^ Joined: 12 Mar 2012  Member: #276810  Location: South Bavaria - near the alps... :-)
trimph1
KVRAF
- profile
- pm
- www
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:35 pm reply with quote
Tricky-Loops wrote:
1-2-Many wrote:
Doug1978(tempID) wrote:
analog vs digital vs my arse.
But the output from your arse IS Anal-log


With Anal-log you can Dig-it-all! HiHi


Laughing Laughing
----
Barry
The man who survived mustard gas and pepper spray is now a seasoned veteran
http://www.ambientonline.org/
^ Joined: 23 Jun 2010  Member: #234424  Location: north of London ON
fisherKing
KVRian
- profile
- pm
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 3:41 pm reply with quote
cool, was curious about what responses i'd get...
^ Joined: 06 Aug 2009  Member: #212870  
LeVzi
KVRAF
- profile
- pm
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:44 pm reply with quote
I appreciate that most of the sounds originated from analogue sources, e.g the 303, juno, JP etc, and they sound "best" on those formats.

But if I want to use similar in my work, i'm not remotely bothered if it's not 100% accurate to the hardware, provided it sounds good to my ears, i'm not interested in less than 0.2% of people who'll say

"That acid drop isn't a real Roland TB303" or

"That hoover wasn't from a Alpha Juno 2"

If the sound fits, then use it, if it's not 100% an authentic digital recreation of the hardware, then I really couldn't care less. If it fits, it's perfect.
^ Joined: 07 Jul 2008  Member: #184424  Location: Cardiff, Wales, UK
KBSoundSmith
KVRist
- profile
- pm
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:49 pm reply with quote
LeVzi wrote:
I appreciate that most of the sounds originated from analogue sources, e.g the 303, juno, JP etc, and they sound "best" on those formats.

But if I want to use similar in my work, i'm not remotely bothered if it's not 100% accurate to the hardware, provided it sounds good to my ears, i'm not interested in less than 0.2% of people who'll say

"That acid drop isn't a real Roland TB303" or

"That hoover wasn't from a Alpha Juno 2"

If the sound fits, then use it, if it's not 100% an authentic digital recreation of the hardware, then I really couldn't care less. If it fits, it's perfect.


My thoughts exactly. Much better to appreciate the unique qualities and sound of a synth than to worry whether or not it sounds like other gear.
^ Joined: 06 Jul 2009  Member: #210853  
Tricky-Loops
KVRAF
- profile
- pm
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 5:00 pm reply with quote
Recently I've found a CD with the inscription "This CD is made with the ORIGINAL REAL Juno hoover sound 'What the...'"

I haven't bought it, because it sounded worse than my vacuum cleaner... Surprised
^ Joined: 12 Mar 2012  Member: #276810  Location: South Bavaria - near the alps... :-)
All times are GMT - 8 Hours

Printable version
Page 1 of 5
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Display posts from previous:   
ReplyNew TopicPrevious TopicNext Topic
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Username: Password:  
KVR Developer Challenge 2012