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Audio Effect simulating an Attack Control as if with ADSR?
nimnimnim
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:47 pm reply with quote
Auto-detecting hits and giving you just a simple knob for attack time to soften any hit to a note in an audio signal (and any other clever feature that you always seem to come up with).

It's rather hard this, I'm usually forced to use X-Click, X-Noise, hard compression, Compressor with sidechain to a track that plays the same notes with an ADSR like a negative of what I'd like to achieve on the instrument/signal in question.

Thanks!
Erik

https://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=180323
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:58 pm reply with quote
I think you're looking of a transient shaper / envelope shaper. I can't recommend one off the top of my head because I've never used one but now you've got a search term to get you started.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:20 pm reply with quote
no one's got any idea?
I'm using Dominion v1.2 the free vst for just that but it hardly works.. the curve is way too linear, meaning it doesn't deal with the exponentially (or log going in right direction) curving transient leaving it pretty much unchanged despite how much you duplicate it (you'll end up with just a hole between a transient hit and a tail by excessive duplication).

SOOO... :D :D :D NO IDEAS? this is so strange I'dve thunk this would be a really common issue with someone hacking a quick vst.

Now you can of course use a compressor for concave (logarithmic?) adsr sounds but the problem where my one solution of compression and/or Dominion is useless is with a square LFO. Like the Corpuses' square LFOs ping pong:ing the sound to hard right and left with real uggly clicks as, those square LFOs really are perfect 50/50 Square's with no softening/ramping.

Ramping could also be a good and already established (actually... xmplay comes to mind) term for this since this seems to be alien to the whole community of :/
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:52 pm reply with quote
I've used Schwa Dyno for this sort of thing: http://www.stillwellaudio.com/?page_id=36
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:31 am reply with quote
Dyno looks cool. Never heard of that one.
Schwa/Stillwell seem to have made some impressive and 'fast' dynamics tools, although I dont think I use any. I will give that a look for sure.

DrumTrigger was recommended recently for something similar.
http://koen.smartelectronix.com/KTDrumTrigger/
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=350233

A simple little effect box with an ADSR on it would be cool though.
And possibly deceptively heavy on cpu yeah?
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:38 am reply with quote
The one in Nomad Factory Liquid Bundle is choice. Use it on drums a lot. I think you can buy it separately. Takes a little tweaking, that's all.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 8:24 am reply with quote
Flux offers a cool transient shaper plug called BitterSweet and best of all, it's free! I've had some good results using it to get the bass attack off the kick drum, and it worked just as described. Check it out here:

http://www.fluxhome.com/products/freewares/bittersweet2

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 11:03 am reply with quote
This is the best:

http://spl.info/software/transient-designer/video.html

The light version, it could be enough for you:

http://spl.info/software/microplugs/attacker.html

The one included in Cubase (full versions) is great too.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:12 pm reply with quote
standalone wrote:
This is the best:

http://spl.info/software/transient-designer/video.html

The light version, it could be enough for you:

http://spl.info/software/microplugs/attacker.html

The one included in Cubase (full versions) is great too.


thanks will try it!
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:24 pm reply with quote
use a gate.

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:27 pm reply with quote
standalone wrote:
This is the best:

http://spl.info/software/transient-designer/video.html

The light version, it could be enough for you:

http://spl.info/software/microplugs/attacker.html

The one included in Cubase (full versions) is great too.


I was at a NARAS seminar with Brendan O'Brien, (look him up!) and he said that the hardware version of the SPL is on every kick and snare of every record he makes since the 00's! He also said he triggers, replaces and layers stuff too, but at least it's PART of the poly-drum potion! HiHi

Here's a nice tutorial I found that covers basic concepts and applications, well done!

http://audio.tutsplus.com/tutorials/mixing-mastering/how-to- use-transient-designers-in-your-mixes/

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