Sausage Fatter: A Great Mastering Tool??

[Burillo]

why should it be loud in the first place? there's always ReplayGain and the volume knob.

tell that to people, yo.

truth is, for the most part people don't care. and those who do care are either marketing drones (this is quieter than <insert recent release here>!) which aren't your target audience anyway, or people who will thank you for not squashing every last bit if dynamics out of your track. and probably such people also know how to level volumes (DJ's and all) and/or use volume knob (music lovers).

louder sounds better and small differences do matter. often the first reaction to "hmm this sounds a bit weak" will not be to turn up the volume but rather to switch back to guetta.

convenience trumps aesthetics for a vast majority of people.

that being said, people don't explicitly care about a record being louder. few will admit stupidity.

louder sounds better, more compressed - not always. there's only so much you can squeeze out of the track. and these days with torrents and stuff you can completely ignore the "majority of people" and just focus on those who appreciate your music for what it is, not for how it compares to guetta in decibels.

[manducator]

Back on track.

I always thought of it as a great mixing tool; I use it for distortion on drumsounds or on basslines while mixing, don't have it used yet for mastering.

I never considered it for subtle use but maybe I should.

[itsNano]

LOL! All i can say is haterz gonna hate . As for the fattener plugin on the master channel, I was just experimenting because I heard a lot of good feedback from people on mastering with sausage fattener and had good results myself. If you wanna overcompress and kill the dynamics of your sh1t then go for it. I just figured if I could make my track louder and still not screw with the dynamics too much, then it's +1 for me. You don't absolutely just have to have "sausage fattener" to do this, I'm sure other plugins can work it out the same way.

[blindasfcuk]

Actually I think they did an in the studio with video where they discussed what it did and that it was all achieveable with a series of ableton plugs. At the end of the day though 2 knobs are better than 20

[qa2pir]

why should it be loud in the first place? there's always ReplayGain and the volume knob.

tell that to people, yo.

truth is, for the most part people don't care. and those who do care are either marketing drones (this is quieter than <insert recent release here>!) which aren't your target audience anyway, or people who will thank you for not squashing every last bit if dynamics out of your track. and probably such people also know how to level volumes (DJ's and all) and/or use volume knob (music lovers).

louder sounds better and small differences do matter. often the first reaction to "hmm this sounds a bit weak" will not be to turn up the volume but rather to switch back to guetta.

convenience trumps aesthetics for a vast majority of people.

that being said, people don't explicitly care about a record being louder. few will admit stupidity.

louder sounds better, more compressed - not always. there's only so much you can squeeze out of the track. and these days with torrents and stuff you can completely ignore the "majority of people" and just focus on those who appreciate your music for what it is, not for how it compares to guetta in decibels.

yeah assuming he shouldn't care about loudness, of course he shouldn't. I don't make my tracks very loud but I don't make topics about making my tracks loud either. this guy did.

[itsNano]

lol, I don't think you get what I'm saying here: I'm not trying to make the loudest track possible, I'm just going for standard market loudness

[mr president]

I have to have warming plugins because without some of the samples can sound so digitally sterile. I try to think of it as having a chain of fx similar to a hardware rack, but in software form. The emulations these days are seriously good, look at the money they charge for them in the first place. Depth,warmth and clarity with a better sense of mix cohesion, well at least this is what they should be used for, not just for overdriving the signals into the red. Has anyone tried Harrison Mixbus, the quality of the sound and analog warmth of the mixer and eq is unlike any ive ever tried...Shame its only audio processing.
Im gonna get this just for summing my final mix stems together.

[taraN]

lol, I don't think you get what I'm saying here: I'm not trying to make the loudest track possible, I'm just going for standard market loudness

Instead of aiming to make your tracks as loud as possible with having fx on the master chain try to instead balance your instruments in the mixdown and the solo tracks using sausage fattener or whatever plugin you like to use - you're just f**king up your sound by putting shit on the master. My advice would be to not use it on the master.

[khanyz]

I really like Sausage Fattener. It's very easy to get a good sound out of it.

IMO I wouldn't put it on the master. I have a "Dirt Bus" which I put it on (or something similar like Atom Splitters Distroyr). I can then send what I want to it independent of the mix and then blend it back in. I even have a Dirt scene setup on my nanoKontrol.

[Neyttable]

I also use sausage fattener, and i think it's great, but i never tried to use it on master, just on some individual channels.

[manducator]

Hey guys, I've had some really sweet results mastering with sausage fattener. 5% fatness, 5% color and messing with the gain nob allows my track to be pretty loud, but not make the threshhold on my limiter go down too much!

I have been trying it and yes, it works!

[itsNano]

nice to see that

[Quewin]

I often use it on the master bus... Never above 2% though, a feel that amount gives my tracks just a tiny bit of meat (no pun intended).