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by aallvor; Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:42 am
by CoolColJ; Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:42 am
aallvor wrote:CoolColJ wrote:many apss do it, I believe Reaper can, and Sonar X1 definitely does
Is Sonar as effortless as Acid, meaning you can just paint in your loops and they'll loop seamlessly? Or will I have to prepare the loops in any way?
I'm not an expert on Sonar X1, but there is a loop/groove window you can bring up. Any audio you record can be used here
http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/ ... ction-View
http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/ ... -and-Loops
SONAR employs a new technology called "Groove Clips". So what is a Groove Clip? A Groove Clip is an audio clip of any length that is "smart". How smart? Smart enough to remember the tempo at which it was played and smart enough to allow you to stretch that tempo without changing the pitch. You can change pitch if you like. Simply assign a reference pitch to the groove clip so when your song changes pitch your clip will follow it automatically.
You can easily convert any audio recording to a Groove Clip.
Split the original clip, or use Slip Editing in the Track view until it's roughly a loop. If you slip edit, we recommend you right-click the clip and choose Apply Trimming
Double-click the audio clip to open it in the Loop Construction view. The Loop Construction View contains tools that will quickly determine the number of quarter notes in a clip. A four measure clip in 4/4 time should have 16 beats. The number of beats in a clip must be specified for looping clips. SONAR will also determine the original tempo of the recording. SONAR uses the original tempo to adjust to your project's tempo. The original tempo must be specified for stretching clips.
For more information about SONAR's Loop Construction view, open the Loop Construction View and click Help, or push the F1 button on your computer keyboard.
by TheoM; Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:02 am
the ones i have mentioned also include in tempo, in project sync preview
In logic and sonar's case though they only PREVIEW it at tempo if it has acid or apple loop metadata
PT and Cubase guess on any loop like live and acid.
by TheoM; Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:04 am
Sometimes not even good enough for previewing, certainly not when it comes to stuff other than drums.
You'll need to flatten with radius in sonar to get a quality shift.
by satYatunes; Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:29 pm
by Crackbaby; Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:52 pm
worth thinking about!
Dubspot's video showing F1
Soundcraft EFX12, Alesis 3630, Nanocompressor, Zoom G13, Tapco 3630
Gordon-Smith Gypsy, Yamaha THR10, P-80
M-Audio Delta 24/96 PCI
by kevvvvv; Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:47 pm
Please let me describe:
You can audition a bunch of new loops (midi or audio) against your song - to discover which you like best.
Ths works like a simple browser - no brain is required - only ear.
Then drag the preferred loop onto a track - literally anywhere - and it matches perfectly (like acid).
it's a doddle to groove match the new loop to, say, your bass beat or a lead line (midi or audio)
- so the new loop sounds like it was born there.
And this is so incredibly easy.
There's none of this nerdy "transient detection" rubbish to do.
Just drag'n'drop - then click "apply" for spot-on groove match.
This feature is brilliant, as my loops all start to make sense together.
The Free S1 version doesn't do this, so there's no way to test it.
But the paid versions does it beautifully.
After years of Cubase and Sonar, I'm now a total Studio One fan.
Current project is composing a bunch of my own loops in S1 with Massive - like building my own construction kit.
Next I want to use my S1-developed loops in Maschine for live song composition - deejay my own loops.
So far so good. Thank you, S1