Anyway, I'm out. You have all won. Have your promotional forum. KVR has changed some recently. Too bad. When I got my iPad and started buying apps, I was excited to post about how cool it was as a tool with well made apps that we're fairly inexpensive and made anyone who still was trying to pirate programs just stupid as the apps are being sold at very reasonable and fair prices, but I didn't know that was at the expense of losing a public forum to companies doing their personal marketing. I'll step back in the shadows until it changes again. Later.

OH MY GOODNESS.....lol.
1. Yes, I have 4 posts on the first page...the first one asked what everyone's favorite iOS amp was...because I like to know what people are using and how they are using it. The 2nd showed a really cool drum app that is undergoing further development and shows quite a bit of promise...I like that! 3rd, I showed a video demonstrating how I connect JamUp to my home studio...because I've had some requests on how I'm using it in relation to a PC DAW. And 4th just a demo of some noodling with the phrase sampler.

In the past I have posted various videos on how I was able to use various apps like Xewton Music Studio, Nanostudio, GarageBand mobile...in conjunction with Jamup and the ability to copy /paste between various apps in order to create a complete track.

My love of music will always come first no matter what. I find myself lucky to have found an app/s that allow me to express myself musically without the use of conventional equipment...and I try to share my experiences with anyone who might be interested. I was so excited when I found JamUp, because it did everything that I needed a guitar app to do and still does. It was only after months of using and testing the app that the company approached me and asked if I would like to take a small position with them...of course...why not! The only reason I post or promote products on here is because I truly believe them to possess the ability to create music in a professional manner.

So, yes...I work for Positive Grid (JamUp) but my posts are made from a musician's standpoint. Sure, I might spotlight a new update when one is available....and show a series of videos in the following weeks demonstrating new apps and effects....but it is meant to be a demonstration...so consumers like myself can get a preview of the products before buying them....

So, I'm not trying to sell you anything....if you were going to buy it, you will...if not, you won't. I'm just a guitarist/studio musician who was asked to show off the abilities of an app and so I do....if they didn't ask me to, I'd be doing it anyway without the Positive Grid name under my posts. Come to think of it....I was doing that before they even asked.

Sorry to have taken up everyone's time with this....(strange that i should have to apologize) I'll be back in a few days when the new update comes out.

ROCK ON....I guess...

+1
The AmpliTube Slash amps, easily. And not because they're Slash, or Marshall, or even IK. But simply because of the astounding level of realism they convey. These models are thoroughly useable, with a level of detail I haven't heard before in any mobile app, even surpassing previous AmpliTube 2 models!

As Derek said earlier, he was looking for a mobile ampsim he could use in a professional setting. Well, Derek, it has finally arrived!

Fair enough. However "C." is just a rhetorical question, I have stated why I do not have a faviorite mobile app amp sim and my personal reasons as to why.

Comparing such a small device with not very much power at all against a laptop and even worse a desktop machine is somewhere I am not up for discussing. Why? Because it is like bringing a knife to a gun fight on your behalf, I can not and shall not be convinced otherwise. Maybe in another 3 or 5 years things will be alot different. So instead of commenting on my thoughts (or rather attempting to tell me that I am wrong) why not just answer the damned question? I simply posted the reasons I am unable to do so which you seem to not like at all. Again I could care less but hey I at least feel like I got to re-state my stance as to why. I see you even got a winnit +1 against my postion: Well done 'Trakstar' We are not on the same page, So what?

iPad 3 looks great on specs and looks wise very pleasing.It is just very much far away from £399 (yeah like I'd be able to do anything useful with the cheapest one ) to £659 (probably the one I'd go for if I were going small) great in my opinion and then whatever "workaround" would set me back to get maximum audio I/O for a start as I would want the ability to multi-track at least 8 tracks at once for that sort of money. See/get MY problem? The application by Wavemachine Labs looks good/I like but not yet for ME personally. If I had money to spend on unessential gear then I'd probably drop on one but I do not

Peas

Dean, the new iPad (NOT iPad 3, Apple says ) was my my first iPad purchase that upgraded from my iPad 1 (which was provided to me). I know it is expensive, I really do like it and would likely be pissed if I had bought every one. I think there's a lot of "skip a generation" buyers in the iPad market just like there are in other similar markets. Well, unless you are rolling around in spare cash!

Anyway, I find it a viable platform when expectations are realistic. For control tasks in a music environment? OUTSTANDING. For synth/sampler/rompler apps with the caveat that I usually can't take it unless I've got an external controller? EXCELLENT. Guitar? Well, I'm biased but I think that's fantastic too! Especially our latest upgrades (not AmpliTube Slash - though those are great models - but the actual functionality upgrades) and respectful of some others' work in this area. Full-on DAW style recording? I'm more likely to put down ideas in either AmpliTube and/or GarageBand and then redo or complete them on the desktop. I've only once done a full piece for hire on the iPad, though I may have exported that to GarageBand on the desktop for additional tweaks like T-RackS etc. In that case, the GarageBand export to the desktop version is brilliant as I'd usually never use it on the desktop for finalizing anything. I'm a Cubase/PT kinda guy on the desktop. But it was really easy and quick to just tweak it up in the same program just on OS X instead of iOS.

These would be fun for practice, but no one, not even Slash would use them live on stage? Any youtube's of that?

What he said.

Here you are. You can see him tweaking the iPad at the start and everything goes 'orange':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNb41CUhQDs&feature=related


sorry, couldn't resist

He used AmpliTube iRig to write songs for this last album. He uses real amps on stage. No idea about his whole studio setup (though there are videos of that which I believe are on his YouTube channel), but many people you'd think are hardcore analog heads have used modeling software in the studio. Your point? Sorry that a YouTube video of the guy whose gear we modeled stating that he actually used it for a very specific and fruitful purpose sets you off so.

Edit - I had to let Shane from Fender state this more eloquently than I did about amp sims (from this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCEJeYPgz44) - He says "At Fender we believe that the thrill of plugging into a great amp is never going to go away, but the convenience and the creativity of plugging right into the computer with your guitar is really compelling and that's not going away either. So why not partner up and be able to give recording enthusiasts the chance to get the right sounds, and the right look, and the right feature set from Fender with the great sounding models from IK Multimedia" which about sums it up.

Also, many professionals in the field (contacts not from my association with IK but people from my educational institution who now work making their living recording) say "don't fear the amp sim" and know they are used every day, often alongside the holy analog gear.

And "no one" would use amp sims live? Really? While they may not be your thing, tell the thousands (maybe millions by now?) of people that Dave Matthews Band bassist Stefan Lessard has cheated by happily using our products on stage for years. At least two or three of our competitors can also say that they've got plenty of live use - so it isn't just us. I think once acts/players can put the big d**k ego aside, we'll see that their back line doesn't really matter to the people in the audience and save their roadies' backs a bit Or they'll just replace them with big funny props like Geddy Lee does since he doesn't bother with big stacks of amps any more either. Of course nothing is going to replace anything else, especially overnight.
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While the iPad is not as powerful as current PC's, it is more powerful than what I started multitracking on, and also more powerful than the first PC's I begin using software amp modeling on. So while you may think it's a ridiculous comparison, it's really not.

You're also completely ignoring the fact that there's no laptop or desktop that's 1.5 pounds and is as small as they are. That in itself is an enormous benefit.

And if you're not at all interested in modeling on a mobile device, or mobile devices in general, why did you even bother commenting in the first place? The title of the forum is Mobile Apps and Hardware, no?



Well, thank you very much for your enlightened and informed opinion on the matter.
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That last part reminds me - I too have NOT been drinking I do realize we're in the Mobile forum here, but when talking about AmpliTube Slash, there's a reason we also made it for Mac/Windows and with the addition of 30-pin support we're well aware that opens up the use of mobile amp sims as well (just like I stated a few of our competitors have people using theirs live too, apparently).

Has anyone actually compared the results of the Amplitube PC simulations vs the Amplitube iPad simulations? I'd really like to hear the differences.

We'd love to hear some clips of the comparisons! Though I think the actual skill level of the person playing will have a lot to do with how well they sound.

Add my +1 to this. I've only done the amp reverb vs the Fender stomp reverb (no need to guess which was better, the results are what you'd expect)

Defensive a bit

You managed to just slash Slash on his big d**k ego and stage rig. Let him know he won a new Washer Dryer stage rig from promoting iPads.

Get more video's up. Get your artist talking about their stage experience. If they're in the studio get them on video talking about it. Get some album credit. Real artists - they don't have to be rock stars, you've been at it for years - show it if they're used.

Youtube killed the blog star.