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NEW Lap Steel Guitar for KONTAKT 4/5 from Orange Tree Samples

Sampler and Sampling discussion (techniques, tips and tricks, etc.)

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Gregjazz
"The" Jazz
 
3838 posts since 17 Aug, 2004, from California, United States

Postby Gregjazz; Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:40 pm

synchronizer wrote:My only concern is the apparent lack of velocity layers of previous bass guitar sample libraries. Wouldn't you say that the Rickenbacker 4003 sample library might benefit from them?

I'm not sure which other bass libraries you're referring to, but the Rickenbacker will absolutely have velocity layers. I'm currently planning at least 3-4 velocity layers, but concentrating on having more round-robin, since that's a more crucial aspect when it comes to realism. For example, the natural difference in dynamics for each round-robin sample will not only make it sound like there are many more velocity layers, but also vastly improve repeating notes--a very important aspect when it comes to creating realistic bass tracks.
Greg Schlaepfer
Orange Tree Samples
Ultra-realistic sample libraries for Kontakt

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synchronizer
KVRian
 
841 posts since 27 Sep, 2010

Postby synchronizer; Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:45 pm

I remember that the Corebass Cherry and similar bass libraries had few or no velocity layers. hmm. Well, i can't complain about your approach to sampling the Rickenbacker. I'm looking forward to it.
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Gregjazz
"The" Jazz
 
3838 posts since 17 Aug, 2004, from California, United States

Postby Gregjazz; Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:52 pm

synchronizer wrote:I remember that the Corebass Cherry and similar bass libraries had few or no velocity layers.

CoreBass Cherry actually uses a mix of special dynamic samples with scripting to create a smooth dynamic range as opposed to using traditional velocity layers. Here's an audio example, so you can hear what it sounds like. Notice the realistic tonal changes (this is not EQ, by the way) and also the way the string starts to buzz when you play loudly:

http://www.orangetreesamples.com/audio/CherryDynamicsTest.mp3

Anyway, don't worry--I have some big plans for the Rickenbacker bass. :)
Greg Schlaepfer
Orange Tree Samples
Ultra-realistic sample libraries for Kontakt

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eDrummist
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1184 posts since 4 Dec, 2002, from Earth

Postby eDrummist; Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:35 pm

synchronizer wrote:I remember that the Corebass Cherry and similar bass libraries had few or no velocity layers. hmm. Well, i can't complain about your approach to sampling the Rickenbacker. I'm looking forward to it.


@Synchronizer Have you found any shortcomings actually playing/using Cherry or are you basing your concerns on your understanding of sampling techniques? I recall you bringing up this topic several months back and after you heard some dynamic samples you no longer had concerns.
synchronizer
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841 posts since 27 Sep, 2010

Postby synchronizer; Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:40 pm

Yes I remember that conversation with you. To be honest I wasn't completely persuaded but I'm fine now. :)
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sorohanro
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1233 posts since 29 Dec, 2008, from Lithuania

Postby sorohanro; Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:50 pm

With demo songs like those on your products, you can sell me whatever you want :lol:
Man, I'm lost in the demo songs for hours...
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Gregjazz
"The" Jazz
 
3838 posts since 17 Aug, 2004, from California, United States

Postby Gregjazz; Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:10 am

Here's something I put together to show the dirtier side of the lap steel guitar:

Off-road Detour

The lap steel was played in live, as were the other guitars (EEG Strawberry and EAG Steel Strings), and the bass is CoreBass Pear.
Greg Schlaepfer
Orange Tree Samples
Ultra-realistic sample libraries for Kontakt

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Jason Washburn
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223 posts since 18 Jul, 2007, from Quebec, Canada

Postby Jason Washburn; Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:01 am

Gregjazz wrote:Here's something I put together to show the dirtier side of the lap steel guitar:

Off-road Detour

The lap steel was played in live, as were the other guitars (EEG Strawberry and EAG Steel Strings), and the bass is CoreBass Pear.



You got me with that demo.......bought

Jason Morin
EdC
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108 posts since 19 Nov, 2011, from Milano

Postby EdC; Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:13 am

He got me with the first demo but I have to wait for July.. :?
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Gregjazz
"The" Jazz
 
3838 posts since 17 Aug, 2004, from California, United States

Postby Gregjazz; Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:07 pm

I just added two tutorial videos focusing on the pitch bend capability in Lap Steel Guitar: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4B89FA07085A6985

Enjoy!
Greg Schlaepfer
Orange Tree Samples
Ultra-realistic sample libraries for Kontakt

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Cap'n Spanky
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445 posts since 28 Jan, 2003

Postby Cap'n Spanky; Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:05 am

Thanks for the tutorials and new audio demo. I'm really looking forward to getting this (which will be very soon).
Cap'n Spanky
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kbaccki
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1805 posts since 12 Sep, 2004

Postby kbaccki; Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:59 pm

This library is so good it makes me wanna cry in my beer, and go bass fishin' with my bluetick...
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