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NEW Lap Steel Guitar for KONTAKT 4/5 from Orange Tree Samples
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Gregjazz
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:40 pm reply with quote
synchronizer wrote:
My only concern is the apparent lack of velocity layers of previous bass guitar sample libraries. Wouldn't you say that the Rickenbacker 4003 sample library might benefit from them?

I'm not sure which other bass libraries you're referring to, but the Rickenbacker will absolutely have velocity layers. I'm currently planning at least 3-4 velocity layers, but concentrating on having more round-robin, since that's a more crucial aspect when it comes to realism. For example, the natural difference in dynamics for each round-robin sample will not only make it sound like there are many more velocity layers, but also vastly improve repeating notes--a very important aspect when it comes to creating realistic bass tracks.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:45 pm reply with quote
I remember that the Corebass Cherry and similar bass libraries had few or no velocity layers. hmm. Well, i can't complain about your approach to sampling the Rickenbacker. I'm looking forward to it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:52 pm reply with quote
synchronizer wrote:
I remember that the Corebass Cherry and similar bass libraries had few or no velocity layers.

CoreBass Cherry actually uses a mix of special dynamic samples with scripting to create a smooth dynamic range as opposed to using traditional velocity layers. Here's an audio example, so you can hear what it sounds like. Notice the realistic tonal changes (this is not EQ, by the way) and also the way the string starts to buzz when you play loudly:

http://www.orangetreesamples.com/audio/CherryDynamicsTest.mp 3

Anyway, don't worry--I have some big plans for the Rickenbacker bass. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:35 pm reply with quote
synchronizer wrote:
I remember that the Corebass Cherry and similar bass libraries had few or no velocity layers. hmm. Well, i can't complain about your approach to sampling the Rickenbacker. I'm looking forward to it.


@Synchronizer Have you found any shortcomings actually playing/using Cherry or are you basing your concerns on your understanding of sampling techniques? I recall you bringing up this topic several months back and after you heard some dynamic samples you no longer had concerns.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:40 pm reply with quote
Yes I remember that conversation with you. To be honest I wasn't completely persuaded but I'm fine now. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:50 pm reply with quote
With demo songs like those on your products, you can sell me whatever you want Laughing
Man, I'm lost in the demo songs for hours...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:10 am reply with quote
Here's something I put together to show the dirtier side of the lap steel guitar:

Off-road Detour

The lap steel was played in live, as were the other guitars (EEG Strawberry and EAG Steel Strings), and the bass is CoreBass Pear.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:01 am reply with quote
Gregjazz wrote:
Here's something I put together to show the dirtier side of the lap steel guitar:

Off-road Detour

The lap steel was played in live, as were the other guitars (EEG Strawberry and EAG Steel Strings), and the bass is CoreBass Pear.



You got me with that demo.......bought

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:13 am reply with quote
He got me with the first demo but I have to wait for July.. Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:07 pm reply with quote
I just added two tutorial videos focusing on the pitch bend capability in Lap Steel Guitar: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4B89FA07085A6985

Enjoy!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:05 am reply with quote
Thanks for the tutorials and new audio demo. I'm really looking forward to getting this (which will be very soon).
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:59 pm reply with quote
This library is so good it makes me wanna cry in my beer, and go bass fishin' with my bluetick...
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