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Where are all the Multitimbral Synths at??
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:24 am reply with quote
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AND Yes I know we can layer them inside a daw, that's besides the point, I wanna make bigger sounds and save them as layered instruments/synths for easy recall.. And I really don't wanna have to rely on a Kore solution to do this!!!


What do you do when you want to layer different synths?


I use Vaz 2010 or Vaz Modular
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:29 am reply with quote
LuSH-101 is multimbral… but here's the catch: it doesn't exist yet… any… day… nooowwwwww….
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:31 am reply with quote
olepro wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
bobbybland wrote:
AND Yes I know we can layer them inside a daw, that's besides the point, I wanna make bigger sounds and save them as layered instruments/synths for easy recall.. And I really don't wanna have to rely on a Kore solution to do this!!!


What do you do when you want to layer different synths?


I use Vaz 2010 or Vaz Modular


No, he said different synths...... Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:44 am reply with quote
jupiter8, I really wish Studio One had a similar option.

Himalaya, I already own Halion Sonic + Halion 4 + Mach Five 3 + etc.. etc..

I'm more interested in actual synth's such as sylenth being multi timbral, or synths like that, more VA's with the option perhaps Alchemy for instance Wink

Either way I'd like to see more DEV's start creating these.

osiris, lol I'm hoping for a miracle Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:16 am reply with quote
I guess my gut reaction is to do this in the host. Its 'easier'. In the host, they all work the same way. HiHi
Although I see how there could be some unique interaction between the layers if the synth was built that way.
But I also dont think I ever got my head to this level of synth programming really. I dont know what Id do with it except create face melter pads for ravers. HiHi

Do any of these few have presets that show off the layers? Electrax?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:07 am reply with quote
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I guess my gut reaction is to do this in the host. Its 'easier'. In the host, they all work the same way. HiHi
Although I see how there could be some unique interaction between the layers if the synth was built that way.
But I also dont think I ever got my head to this level of synth programming really. I dont know what Id do with it except create face melter pads for ravers. HiHi

Do any of these few have presets that show off the layers? Electrax?


All these miniclips are played with ONE instance of Synthix ... Live

See the interaction at 1.41 in the Tdreamesque clip. Some sequencer events can trig some layers parameters, wich can themselves trigg some global Fx automation, in many clips, the Glide and some of the filter automation are global, but can also be altered in the layers themselves, also the playing modes can interacting with all the above in many sophisticated ways, and with the arpeggiators. Thats how deep you can go.

Synthix Splits and Complex
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:36 am reply with quote
Zang. That is pretty deep. Amazing.
I cant even wrap my head around how its being played. HiHi
Are those presets in the demo?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:12 pm reply with quote
Lotuzia wrote:
Synthix is Multitimbral 8 with the guitar mode. Though you can use this mode with any controller, like a keyboard.

Allows you to make huge stacks for example, or very complex pads, textures, or sequences etc etc.

And well, its a synth, not a rompler nor sampler.

Pita to program though....

ElectraX has a seemingly more elegant solution and makes it easy to create some pretty rich and powerful sounds - the layers of the synth are just *much* easier to access edit change etc, or just more intuitive...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:17 pm reply with quote
whyterabbyt wrote:
bobbybland wrote:
AND Yes I know we can layer them inside a daw, that's besides the point, I wanna make bigger sounds and save them as layered instruments/synths for easy recall.. And I really don't wanna have to rely on a Kore solution to do this!!!


What do you do when you want to layer different synths?
Use a MUX.
Inside it you can layer anything and modulate anything. It's a Combinator on steroids. It even has a drum module, sampler etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:32 pm reply with quote
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Zang. That is pretty deep. Amazing.
I cant even wrap my head around how its being played. HiHi
Are those presets in the demo?


Unfortunately no its in an add on bank Le Lotus Bleu is just releasing for the Synthix, you can find more details and more audio demos in this KVR thread : Big Sounds for the XXIsrt Century

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:37 pm reply with quote
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whyterabbyt wrote:
bobbybland wrote:
AND Yes I know we can layer them inside a daw, that's besides the point, I wanna make bigger sounds and save them as layered instruments/synths for easy recall.. And I really don't wanna have to rely on a Kore solution to do this!!!


What do you do when you want to layer different synths?
Use a MUX.
Inside it you can layer anything and modulate anything. It's a Combinator on steroids. It even has a drum module, sampler etc.


No, I know what I do. I use Bidule.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:38 pm reply with quote
_leras wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:
Synthix is Multitimbral 8 with the guitar mode. Though you can use this mode with any controller, like a keyboard.

Allows you to make huge stacks for example, or very complex pads, textures, or sequences etc etc.

And well, its a synth, not a rompler nor sampler.

Pita to program though....

ElectraX has a seemingly more elegant solution and makes it easy to create some pretty rich and powerful sounds - the layers of the synth are just *much* easier to access edit change etc, or just more intuitive...


Seems that some other people have less problems to program it :

Synthix Splits and Complex

One instance of Synthix playing ..... live. No daw automation, no nothing. Music ......

Not saying that Synthix cannot become a bit complex to program : Power has a price. But everybody can program it at his own level, and it is always rewarding. The good news it that there are many presets you can deconstruct to learn how things can be done, or, if you're not interested into that, just PLAY.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:43 pm reply with quote
Here you go:

http://www.discodsp.com/discoverypro/
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:01 pm reply with quote
Teksonik wrote:
olepro wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
bobbybland wrote:
AND Yes I know we can layer them inside a daw, that's besides the point, I wanna make bigger sounds and save them as layered instruments/synths for easy recall.. And I really don't wanna have to rely on a Kore solution to do this!!!


What do you do when you want to layer different synths?


I use Vaz 2010 or Vaz Modular


No, he said different synths...... Razz


You may be joking, but Vaz 2010 and Vaz Modular can both host 16 synths.
And it can be a combination of it's own synth and vst synths with insert effects.
So you could have in channel 1 a Vaz synth with effects and in channel 2 a vst synth with effects which can be vaz own insert fx and/or vst fx.
If you set them to the same midi channel you can play them stacked.

For a nice phat sound, why not stack 16 Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:23 pm reply with quote
Yes Vaz is powerfull too.

I forgot to mention it but the Legacy Cell from Korg is also nice. It can handle any combination of MS-20 + Polysix ( up to two only but with full polyphony) in a nice Shell with macro buttons + you can add up to 4 Mdex effect per patch.
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