Nebula self defeating by adding additional noise and phase per copy??Dude what are you smoking?? You should watch more closely when choosing your tea leaves.

Or better to ask can you give us simple, really simple evidence on this. Because many people did test and yet noone found anything on that nonsense you just mentioned.



Ouuu you are very happy by having access to all these mighty tools.

There is Fairchild for nebula? Wow where? I would like to know where did you find it and how did you compared it then?

What kind of ears you sport? I think you just pissed on yourself, probably making it up about having access to all these tools (especially fairchild for Nebula). I don't know have you been in coma for the last two years but there are dozen of threads on gearslutz, KVR and even over at UAD forum (since you mentioned it) where a lot of people (producers, musicians, whatever) joined several blind test and it turned that in many cases they prefered nebula over UAD. Yes studer and manley test. Yes long time UAD users preferred Nenula over UAD. Just use search button. Add to that many threads where people experienced sort of revelation when using nebula (especially as EQ). For your record i have never seen threads with regards to something spectacular, or anything alike for plugs coming from some brands you mentioned. Go figure. Surely you don't think that all these people are stupid, without any experience or something. In case you think i am pulling this from my a** go and check these forums.

p.s. i own nebula yes, as well as uad quad, powercore etc.etc..Just to clarify that you can not say that my opinion is biased or that i am fanboy of some brand because i am not. I just don't like nonsense that's all.

Sweet lord can you tell us what is "completely tried and tested technology" which waves, ik multimeda, softube etc. use - please elaborate. I hope it's not some kind of albino polar bear or something..

.. or so they would like to have you believe. Having used several different Manley Massive Passives I was pretty disappointed in the UAD version. However, the one from analogueinthebox.com and the few bands I sampled myself with Nebula was much, MUCH closer to the sound and behavior I'm used to hearing.

I also remember all the rave and circle-jerking going on at the UAD forums when they first released their pultec. Some of us criticized it for not being a good emulation as it behaved nothing at all like a tube unit does. Got almost murdered by the UAD mob, even though I had an UAD card myself.

Only now, many years later are people starting to realize just how much it takes to emulate analogue gear properly, especially the tube stuff. It. Is. Not. Easy.

UA is a brilliant at marketing, although I have to admit, they are finally starting to model the really relevant stuff in their latest plugins but what are the motivations of UA one might ask? To sell more of their underpowered hardware crap at 1k$+ a pop (costing them less than 100$ to make) for gullible users who still think UA is the only game in town?

IMHO when it comes to plugin DSP magic, Michael Massberg is the name to look out for. Thus currently Brainworx has an ace up their sleeve and a magic touch that I haven't seen elsewhere. Their Elysia Alpha compressor, Xpressor and now Vertigo VCS-1 plugins are amazingly detailed and authentic sounding (I've used all the corresponding hardware units in question). They still sound a bit "pluginish" but that might be pure placebo on my part.

I agree with you about the limitations of the volterra kernel way. It's the same problem that Sintefex/Focusrite encountered with their convolution thing. It is NOT a Nebula limitation which causes the 1-band only EQ dilemma, it is the CREATORS of the programs who have to deal with a very real and very serious limitation: Time and effort.

If you want to create a 3 band EQ with Q and Gain you are doing an exponential number of "sampling"! It takes a ridiculous amount of time to do the proper sampling. I talked with one of the Sintefex creators, Mike Kemp, a few years ago. He described the monstrous work behind sampling some of the more complex EQs in the FX2000 and FX8000 dynamic convolvers. It goes like this:

Set all knobs to unity/default -> Sample.
Turn 1 knob, 1 step -> sample and continue until that one knob is fully sampled throughout it's range.
Now move that 1 knob back to unity, turn the 2nd knob 1 step -> sample.
Now while keeping the 2nd knob in the first step, you sample the 1st knob AGAIN throughout it's whole range.
You continue like this until the 2nd knob has been completely sampled throughout it's range.
.. then there is the 3rd knob. Yeah. You probably understand the problem.

This is the only way to sample a unit properly, so that you do not get multiple passes through the unit. Sampling something like this is how it is done in the sintefex. They even wrote a specialized sampling software for this process only to keep all the tiny files organized! (they are tiny due to the short sampling process of the sintefex, only 2048 samples per convolution maximum, at least in the FX8000). Now the sintefex samples in about 30 seconds, so all those steps doesn't take a long time but still you end up using literally weeks, if not months sampling something like the Manley Massive Passive. Now imagine doing this with Nebula, using pristine sampling quality (meaning long sweeps, up to 120 seconds or more at 96kHz). Not only is it going to take for ever to do, it'll also be very hard to process. Actually I'm not sure what the limits of Nebula's NAT program is but surely there must be some when we start talking about hundreds of gigabytes of samples that need to be processed.

Also note that the more complex the sampling process is the more chance of user error there is. It's an excruciatingly complex process and sucks like nothing else!

Luckily Nebula has some clever features. You can have it linearize samples so that they do NOT degrade the audio at all. At least not the way AD/DA conversion can hurt. You can also provide clean versions with no harmonic distortion. Finally using this method you can force only 1 instance of your EQ to be the "full emulation" while still using several bands with clean versions.

I use nebula almost every day and the sonic benefits of the Volterra kernel engine is obvious, at least when it comes to EQs and preamps. I'm not entirely sold on the compressors or other processes that require faster response but for EQs it is pretty much unmatched in my opinion.. but each to their own.

Cheers!
bManic

Props for this lucid appraisal.

Honestly - Nebula for me is one of the only plugins that audibly does NOT generally degrade the signal through processing. So often I find plugins ultimately making something sound worse-loosing some life from the signal...but even with multiple instances - all you get is added colour - which honestly - ITB - is not a bad thing...
The technology is very well thought out with STONE etc and clever ways to overcome any issues.

Yes there are cons. Pros - are quite nice tho...

Yeah Ive owned UAD, Powercore etc and sold them. I use hardware compression now - Nebula for EQ and saturation - and a handful of Valhalla and other digital style plugins...thats it.

[quote="analoguesamples909"]

And?????

Are you suggesting that you are right and all those people who are happy with their releases that have been made with equipment you have disgarded as inferior???? What about the people who paid to listen or dance to it?

No links to any website, music site or anything......

no Im not suggesting anything but my own preference and personal experience, and stating that Ive personally tried those things and settled on others. And on these forums for the time being I'd rather remain anonymous. Take that as you will.

Hello folks!

We're happy to announce that a release candidate for the Mac version of the plugin is released and ready to be tested right now.
We hope we can release the Mac version within a couple of days now.

A bug that could cause some weird phase behaviour or simply flip the phase
has been fixed in the v1.4 update for PC.



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