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Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:41 am reply with quote
I will be the first customer!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:44 am reply with quote
Nope, sorry. I was the first customer for The Glue and I plan on being the first for The Drop too. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:48 am reply with quote
I've got the first scientific sweep style head to head with The Drop and the MS20 rev2. I've got an oscilloscope as well as fft displayed and change the cutoff, resonance, saw input pitch and level to give things a good workout:

(edit: I've since updated the algorithm, so please check here instead for the latest youtube link http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4991686#499168 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8e7h5TKwxA&feature=plcp
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:15 am reply with quote
^ very impressive !!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:44 am reply with quote
andy_cytomic wrote:
I've got the first scientific sweep style head to head with The Drop and the MS20 rev2. I've got an oscilloscope as well as fft displayed and change the cutoff, resonance, saw input pitch and level to give things a good workout:


Very impressed indeed!

I'm sure it's still a few months off but it looks like at long last we're finally going to have a decent ITB filter emulation that can compete with my trusty Sherman Filterbank! Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:53 pm reply with quote
Holy hell, that's impressive.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:44 pm reply with quote
sounds great Andy!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:57 pm reply with quote
Spanking!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:08 pm reply with quote
andy_cytomic wrote:
I've got the first scientific sweep style head to head with The Drop and the MS20 rev2.

Very impressive indeed!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:49 am reply with quote
andy_cytomic wrote:
I've got the first scientific sweep style head to head with The Drop and the MS20 rev2. I've got an oscilloscope as well as fft displayed and change the cutoff, resonance, saw input pitch and level to give things a good workout:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8e7h5TKwxA&feature=plcp


Well impressed! Thumbs Up!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:00 am reply with quote
When does this finally come out?
Any chance to participate in some kind of beta?

I just started to make some use of external filters (MS20-FX and some stuff of FL Studio) in combination with the Automation Clips in FL Studio, and it's really nice, what you can do with this in comparison to just using synth-internal envelopes and filters.

I'd love to "awesome up" my sound by using some better filters though.
This is where "The Drop" should come into play. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:30 pm reply with quote
Can't wait to get my hands on this lovely sounding effect.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:26 pm reply with quote
I have just tried out some other filter plugins, and to my surprise most filter plugins are totally USELESS, when it comes to fast automation. Confused
Even stuff like Volcano from Fabfilter is not able to process fast automation curves to the cutoff knob.

So now I'm actually a bit concerned here.
Will The Drop be able to process really fast automation data?
So I can do stuff like this with it:
https://www.box.com/s/edcde30e1ac408a0fff5

Pleeeeaaaase say YES. Prayer
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:33 pm reply with quote
Nokenoku wrote:
I have just tried out some other filter plugins, and to my surprise most filter plugins are totally USELESS, when it comes to fast automation. Confused
Even stuff like Volcano from Fabfilter is not able to process fast automation curves to the cutoff knob.

So now I'm actually a bit concerned here.
Will The Drop be able to process really fast automation data?
So I can do stuff like this with it:
https://www.box.com/s/edcde30e1ac408a0fff5

Pleeeeaaaase say YES. Prayer


That sounds like slow automation to me, but it does have a triggered synth envelope with a fast decay time, are you referring to this envelope "plip"? If so then you can do this kind of thing easily with The Drop, either by triggering the envelope via midi or via a "manual trigger" automation gate control, where an upward step of the control from below 0.5 to above 0.5 will trigger the envelope. The internal processing of The Drop is always done at audio rate or above if you have oversampling enabled, which, along with the very detailed analog modelling, will give ultra smooth results.

(edit: for example the audio demos here http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4976837#497683 7 were done with a completely dry saw tooth input to the drop and triggering the envelopes via midi)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:15 pm reply with quote
Nokenoku wrote:
I have just tried out some other filter plugins, and to my surprise most filter plugins are totally USELESS, when it comes to fast automation. Confused
Even stuff like Volcano from Fabfilter is not able to process fast automation curves to the cutoff knob.


This is not a limitation of the plugins, but a limitation of the midi spec itself. You don't want to be drawing really fast automation curves to a cutoff knob with midi cc values. That's just the wrong way to go about doing it. As Andy pointed out, most filter plugins have built in envelopes that can be triggered in a number of ways to do exactly what you are trying to achieve.
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