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My temazies and diazies are just about to do so, Sorry to hear that You're prescription runs out before You can get it repeated Krim, I know that nightmare all too well. If I lived near You then I would sort You out for those days that You are screwed on but I'm up not far from John but not that close either in the northwest, Don't know where abouts You are living man. Honestly I would do that if Ya lived up in the north-west

Anyway hope You get that sorted ASAP as the times it happens to Myself, Im a wreck (out of all the sussposedly 'addicitve' medication I am on, By far the worst to not have/run out of early is the one sort which is not 'addictive'. As well as it keeps those chemicals balanced in the old grey matter it soon as hell pisses off and lets them tip all over the place!) All the best You're way

Dean

f**k me!

This is the thread that has it all. Not only do we have Kriminal being polite, but we have mr. Teksonik being lucid. Throw in a bit of Dean Mr. Nekro and you are good to go.

But, and this is a BIG BUTT. We have mr. Rob Lee in da house. OMG. Can you believe it. What kind of argument is dis? I haven't even read it yet. I shall save it to me hd for later perusal, with a quality cast like this, what could go wrong?

It gets better: thecontrolcentre chips in. Quality when it is needed.

Crackbaby interjects. A sleeper it would seem from 2003. Nearly a decade old that one. But you have to admire his balls.

mcnoone posts a cool puppy photo but no one cares.

We even have an in from Lotuzia. It's a hotting up.

Kriminal still posts. He doesn't swear or call anyone a c***. He must have been warned. He is playing the game, Roger. They are all at it now.

Vurt comes back. Wonders wtf he has started I shouldn't wonder.

Oh my god. They are all at it. Bronto Scorpio kicks a beauty from the left wing. Who knew he had such a foot?

Teksonik still won't let it go. Such is life.


Victor Meldrew moment: I don't believe it. It is Glokraw the financial intellectual come to help us all out. Everything is going to be ok now.
Wait. Wait. It's not. This is Vurt's thread and he is having none of it.
Kriminal just won't shut up.

Vurt is strong here. It is his thread and he is not going to see it hijacked by anybody. Not even Kriminal who gives a good old banter as always..

Game on..


Teksonik pipes up.
Only to be smacked down very quickly by mr. Dean aka Nekro.

This goes on for a while. Must have been a good conversation.

Bronto scorpio chips in. Bows out. Good man.

No matter.

Kriminal and mr. Dean joust. There is no competition.
What is that?

There is a call on the phone.

"Yes I can hear you, who is that?"!

It is da white rabbit, yes I.

f**k me.
I think it is the white rabbit calling from a chip shop near you.
It sounds like he has had a mars bar too far.

"Yes, I can hear you white rabbit, loud and clear, what do you have to say to the eager waiting kvr rabble?"

Yes, this is I. Da white Rabbit so to say.

If you do not stop squabbling about I and I, I is gonna come down der from Weegieland and kick your prospective I and I arse. Do I make I and I myself clear?


It's nearly all over now.
Who dares make a fuss after such a statement.

Don't kill the messenger.
The boss has spoken.
You ain't seen nothing yet.

Carry on.

I stayed out of it.


But now Im thinking codec is onto something here.
Im liking the style being displayed and whatnot.

How do you know, if you don't listen to them?

Purists...smells a lot like hardware is better than software synths, except a better anal-o-g would be.
Hardware synths are better than software synths, but I never used software synths.
What would Spock say?

How do you know they're "detestable", if you never listen to them.
That's like me saying, I hate your music, but never listened to it.
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I did in the last 2 posts.
Questions that go directly to the heart of this anti-preset hypocrisy.
The cool dog wins.

because names like "dubstep bass 1" "dubstep bass 2" add infinitum give it away.
or because its normally the same bunch of sound designers as the last however many synths and ive heard their wares before ...


would it be better if i said "its quicker for me to dial up what im after than to trawl through the heap of shit provided to find the one sound that might be worth tweaking to get what i want..."?

doesnt matter what spock would say, like god he is fictional.

im not anti preset, i just dont use them.
in the same way im not anti dog, i just have a cat.

Thanks for giving all the great baseless excuses.
Problem is, we're looking for practical reasons, but only getting vague excuses.
Somethings amiss there.

You can't prove that.
Therefore the statement is false until otherwise proven correct.

so youre saying the majority of sounds in synths arent named with clues to their sound?
youre saying its not the same names popping up as sound designers more often than not?
youre saying its not quicker for me to dial something in than to go through a bank of sounds which are made for mass market consumtion when i know that over the years i havent been catered for so dont need to go through it all again with each new synth?
i can completely understand why the sounds chosen are as such, i wouldnt expect the sounds im after to sell synths to the majority of folk, why is this so hard for you to understand? im not saying a sound designer couldnt do it, im saying that a dev probably wouldnt use it if they did as they would know it wouldnt appeal to the masses and would probably put most customers off if there was a synth released with a bank of sounds that would be amed at me.



so theres a chance spock isnt fictional?

Then codec_spurt comes along and posts a rambling nonsensical diatribe clearly fueled by some controlled substance.......yep this thread has it all....

I cared. I even started crying.

I have a friend. His name is Spock.
He is very logical.

Okay...you win the debatable parts of this thread, on the grounds of personal preference.
btw...I know of at least one preset designer who has made at least a few sounds that do not conform to the stereotyping given, of which you associate all sound designers as doing in their sound creations.
I still like you regardless of difference of opinion.
Cool dog was wrong. It's a good thread.

I don't tend to use presets, from the idea of I can do it all myself.

I have noticed the sentiment, have synths that have none 'so people can learn synthesis'. From what, "learn synthesis"? Pure trial and error? At school? If one hasn't studied people's expertise, what is one doing? Do you go become an orchestral composer but never looked at anyone's score? C'mon.

I started with the Minimoog. FORTUNATELY there was a sheet that someone put out with indications of famous moog patches, including close-enough-for-rock-n-roll modular moog patches. Emerson, Carlos...

then I did a little bit with the Buchla II at SFCM. Now that was 'theory', applied via trial and error. Everyone kept to themselves in 'Electronic Music Lab' so this was more of the pure 'learning synthesis'. I didn't accomplish shit.

the next big experience learning synthesis was with the Yamaha DX7, Yamaha aka Chowning FM. There were presets! and there was a class by Gary Leuenberger who was part of the development team at one point. I learned a lot.

the idea of people 'learning synthesis', but it's not off of people's shoulders, what was done before, is a bit daft IME.

but you know I use Kore2 and the amount of useless presets to contend with in that thing is a form of hell for me.

hey, is this the thread with the free presets?