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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:36 pm reply with quote
How creating Logic Environment Macros, you can filter MIDI data to a music scale in any key and randomize those notes first as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub_6ho75SGQ

Towards the end of the video I show a few Environment Macro Scales I've created as well. Very Happy
They all can be used just like the 2 scales I show in the video.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:40 pm reply with quote
A musical improvisation using custom Logic 9 Environment Macros.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3HDeReVh74
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:06 pm reply with quote
I haven't checked out your ideas yet as they're fairly advanced. You inspired me, however, to look up some basic tutorials on youtube for the Environment, and I must say it's very cool! I'm fairly new to Logic, but am already feeling quite comfortable with the arpeggiator and chord memorizer at least.

Looking forward to digging into your material soon!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:29 pm reply with quote
One question with the arppegiator, when I have, say, a four note chord, quantized, it arppegiates nicely so long as Logic encounters the chord AFTER hitting play. If I have the timeline cursor right at the beginning of the chord and then hit play, I get the actual chord sustaining behind the arpeggiated notes which is kind of weird. Hope this makes sense. Have you run into this?

note: Did a bit of research and this seems to be a known Logic quirk.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:13 am reply with quote
skipkent wrote:
One question with the arppegiator, when I have, say, a four note chord, quantized, it arppegiates nicely so long as Logic encounters the chord AFTER hitting play. If I have the timeline cursor right at the beginning of the chord and then hit play, I get the actual chord sustaining behind the arpeggiated notes which is kind of weird. Hope this makes sense. Have you run into this?

note: Did a bit of research and this seems to be a known Logic quirk.

Are you positioning to it for the first time before hitting play then hitting play or did you just stop while in the middle of the performance and then re-position to a new position then hit play again?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:14 am reply with quote
Great video!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:22 am reply with quote
I wish the GUI was more intuitive for the Logic Environment ... and prettier!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:22 am reply with quote
Jace-BeOS wrote:
I wish the GUI was more intuitive for the Logic Environment ... and prettier!

My intention in the above videos (with more to follow) was in no way remotely or even closely related to the GUI and what I was pointing out what you can do with The Environment in Logic.
I know I say Logic 9, but The Environment in Logic has been there in Logic since version 3 Oct 1997

http://www.lipscomb.umn.edu/docs/MusicTech/LogicEnvironmentT utorial.pdf

If anyone's intention is to side track what I'm going to be posting to this thread, and that's just cool things you can do with The Environment in Logic, start another thread with those comments.

GUI, pretty or not is not the thing that generates MIDI notes that enhance your music when using customized Environment Macros within Logic.

Some of these threads get way off from the original post and wind up talking about someones mother or daughter. Then all hell breaks loose. Mad

That's what I want to avoid in this thread.
Just keep it to awe or ohh HiHi or thanks or questions. Help
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:23 pm reply with quote
gabebrunogarza1021 wrote:
skipkent wrote:
One question with the arppegiator, when I have, say, a four note chord, quantized, it arppegiates nicely so long as Logic encounters the chord AFTER hitting play. If I have the timeline cursor right at the beginning of the chord and then hit play, I get the actual chord sustaining behind the arpeggiated notes which is kind of weird. Hope this makes sense. Have you run into this?

note: Did a bit of research and this seems to be a known Logic quirk.

Are you positioning to it for the first time before hitting play then hitting play or did you just stop while in the middle of the performance and then re-position to a new position then hit play again?


When I set the cursor to the very start of the arpeggiated phrase and hit play, that's when the shenanigans occur. If I start playback earlier, it plays fine. Nothing I can't work around.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:48 am reply with quote
skipkent wrote:
gabebrunogarza1021 wrote:
skipkent wrote:
One question with the arppegiator, when I have, say, a four note chord, quantized, it arppegiates nicely so long as Logic encounters the chord AFTER hitting play. If I have the timeline cursor right at the beginning of the chord and then hit play, I get the actual chord sustaining behind the arpeggiated notes which is kind of weird. Hope this makes sense. Have you run into this?

note: Did a bit of research and this seems to be a known Logic quirk.

Are you positioning to it for the first time before hitting play then hitting play or did you just stop while in the middle of the performance and then re-position to a new position then hit play again?


When I set the cursor to the very start of the arpeggiated phrase and hit play, that's when the shenanigans occur. If I start playback earlier, it plays fine. Nothing I can't work around.


Okay, I have other Environment Macros that work with the Arp and Delay objects and have run into that same issue.
I always start at 0 and not at 1 before starting Logic and never run into that issue.
Since I've never run into any issues doing that and trying to spend too much time on seeing if there's a setting to help avoid what you and I have run into, setting to 0 and playing from their just works.
So that's how I avoid that issue. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:47 pm reply with quote
New video showing 2 other Customize Macros.

One to generate new notes off a playing MIDI Pattern.

The second is a velocity macro. This one is great for MIDI files you purchase that have fix velocity, it'll keep a constant random on those velocities.
Also the randomize macro is great for multi-layed sampled libraries since this will always randomize the velocity so to play different sampled layers within a sampled instrument.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IOdyQ-CBdA
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:47 pm reply with quote
I created a MIDI file using Melodyne and using the loop it was created from and using my customized Logic 9 Environment Macros, I show how one can experiment to create a music idea.

01 - Create an Apple Loop file from a WAV file
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUDArj7jakc

02 - Get MIDI information from a drum loop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuRM9uhlJXQ

03 - Expermentation with customized Logic 9 Environment Macros
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZPuKlz0NPs
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:39 am reply with quote
There's a hidden band in Logic 9 with customized Environment Macros. Very Happy

This video shows how a MIDI drum loop from Toontrack will drive a keyboard and bass and when using ThumbJam against a lead guitar from Nexus2, can come up with some more cool stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2mCJS68TZk
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:46 am reply with quote
wow i thought i was decent with environment. When i used logic as a front end for pro tools mix 1999-2001 i created a wicked custom environment for PT and all my outboard ( i was all hardware then)..ahh the days of good health, how fondly i remember you Smile

But back on topic, YEAH!! that is a nice vid and you have SKILLZ!!. Much respect Thumbs Up! from a former (but it will always be in my heart) logic power user.. i started at 2.5 and used it all the way to 9.1.7 Smile I am glad people still see the pwoer in lgoic's environment.

Re skipkent, i tried everything known to man and never got the logic arp to sync 100%.. that's why i guess i gave up on that and started using my midi keyboard which could record the arps for any au instrument as midi performance.. in the long run it was more useful as you could really reck around with the pattern itself in a very deep fashion.

if you want true arps with logic, with perfect timing, you will need to use reaosn rewired into it with the many excellent reasons sounds, or if you really want an arp for all the logic synths, i highly recommend investing in a keyboard with built in arps. Thumbs Up!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:12 am reply with quote
ttoz wrote:
wow i thought i was decent with environment. When i used logic as a front end for pro tools mix 1999-2001 i created a wicked custom environment for PT and all my outboard ( i was all hardware then)..ahh the days of good health, how fondly i remember you Smile

But back on topic, YEAH!! that is a nice vid and you have SKILLZ!!. Much respect Thumbs Up! from a former (but it will always be in my heart) logic power user.. i started at 2.5 and used it all the way to 9.1.7 Smile I am glad people still see the pwoer in lgoic's environment.

Re skipkent, i tried everything known to man and never got the logic arp to sync 100%.. that's why i guess i gave up on that and started using my midi keyboard which could record the arps for any au instrument as midi performance.. in the long run it was more useful as you could really reck around with the pattern itself in a very deep fashion.

if you want true arps with logic, with perfect timing, you will need to use reaosn rewired into it with the many excellent reasons sounds, or if you really want an arp for all the logic synths, i highly recommend investing in a keyboard with built in arps. Thumbs Up!

Thanks.

Just trying to showcase what you can do with The Environment in Logic besides setting up a multi-timbral to do automation on volume and pan.
I think when people see those videos, they think that's all The Environment does.
Besides, using The Environment for that is for up to Logic 7.2, Logic 8 and 9 have another way.

I just got a domain and will be setting up shop there with tutorials on The Environment.
I'll keep everyone posted once those video tutorials are posted.
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