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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:30 am reply with quote
vurt wrote:
what are the patches included on the disc like?
also can we get the freeware top 10 listed too, then we can argue about that as well Mad


only bought it yesterday so haven't had a chance to look at the rest, but these 50 Synthmaster presets are on it (the main reason I bought it!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DofWnCkRTBg&feature=player_em bedded
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:36 am reply with quote
Ha, I can't say agree with that list much. Then again, I don't have a PC, so I miss out on some amazing synths. My list:

1. Omnisphere
1. Zebra
3. Animoog
4. Reaktor (duh)
5. Padshop
6. Absynth
7. DIVA
8. DCAM
9. Alchemy
10. Grain Science
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:36 am reply with quote
when i try and read CM
wub wub wub
keeps goin through my head

Rachmiel (?) can be a breath of fresh air though
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:54 am reply with quote
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Of course 3 german synths... 9 synths out of 10 are made in Germany HiHi


There's actually 4, which makes it the most represented country. The same as US & UK together. If anything probably Italy and maybe France should be upset. And it's not to far off to think that maybe we're "all" (= most of us) a bit western centric....


i was not referring to the stupid list. I meant "worldwide" Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:54 am reply with quote
Mushy Mushy wrote:
My top 10 FWIW

10. ImpOSCar
9. Predator
8. SubBoomBass
7. Absynth
6. Albino3
5. Albino3
4. Albino3
3. Albino3
2. Albino3
1. Albino3


1-6. I'm pretty sure thats still in 1000's of projects right now.
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Echoes in the Attic wrote:
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Wow, CM and I have pretty similar taste in synths. The only one I haven't owned there is SynthMaster, and I may some day. No longer have sylenth1 and DCAM though. However I only sold sylenth1 because I'm convinced it's dead. Who leaves a synth in "beta" for over two years? To me that just shows a complete lack of care/respect for your customers.


I guess all of the music out there with Sylenth in it must be an aberration? It's just crazy that a synth that seems to be letting you down has been in more released music than any of us could track down or name in a lifetime.

Yeah, producing a plugin that is awesome is a terrible letdown Crying or Very sad


No quite the opposite. I bought it because it sounds great and I'm very aware that it's used all the time for good music. However I don't have confidence that it will be updated and move to 64 bit mac etc. So as much as I enjoyed it, I thought I'd stick with stuff that seems to have a future. There are many great plug-in synths to choose from, I don't need any one particular one so if a developer can't even be bothered to slap a final release together for a beta that's been over 2 years, I might as well go with the others. Just my opinion, use whatever you enjoy.


Personally I think you're helping create a caustic and negative atmosphere that causes developers to clam up. The constant badmouthing, speculation, and rumormongering just gets old, and shows a complete lack of care/respect.

Selling a great synth like Sylenth is ... cutting off one's nose to spite ... well, whatever.


I don't think I'm helping create a negative atmosphere towards Sylenth1. Sylenth1 being in beta for years did that on it's own. I'm not bad-mouting it, just pointing out that by any reasonable expectation, it seems to not be in development. The point of my post was that that's the only reason I sold it (when trying to downnside due to having too many synths), but it's still great. It sounds like you're being a little overly defensive about it. I'm glad you like it and glad you have faith in it's future (which maybe you don't, thus causing the defensiveness), but there's nothing wrong with pointing out that a developer has lost interest in maintaining a synth, it's just a simple truth that can't be argued about after 2 and half years of silence. But hey I wish him well in whatever is new job is, I'm sure he's brilliant at it. Wink

Actually it is not a matter of "loss of interest" in general. The problem is not sylenth1 vst (which is complete). The problem is the bloody useless AU mac "think different" obsolete, not standard format. People on PC have no problems at all with sylenth1. Mac users have (myself included).
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:08 am reply with quote
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Actually it is not a matter of "loss of interest" in general. The problem is not sylenth1 vst (which is complete). The problem is the bloody useless AU mac "think different" obsolete, not standard format. People on PC have no problems at all with sylenth1. Mac users have (myself included).


you keep saying the same things over & over LOL.

if you're using sylenth1, you should NOT be using the beta on a mac; it does not do well... i use the last 'official version' in logic, on mountain lion, with NO issues at all. i live or die by S1. and it hasn't been updated for anyone (mac OR pc) since 2008.

meanwhile, this is from the applied acoustics mac page:

"The VST and Audio Unit plug-ins are available in 32-bit only. The native 64-bit VST and Audio Unit plug-ins won't be available until the next major version."

so maybe they'll update (or maybe not).
seriously, tho. sell your mac, buy a PC, and get on with your life. (i will do the same, and will stop replying to your posts!)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:11 am reply with quote
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Actually it is not a matter of "loss of interest" in general. The problem is not sylenth1 vst (which is complete). The problem is the bloody useless AU mac "think different" obsolete, not standard format. People on PC have no problems at all with sylenth1. Mac users have (myself included).


you keep saying the same things over & over LOL.

if you're using sylenth1, you should NOT be using the beta on a mac; it does not do well... i use the last 'official version' in logic, on mountain lion, with NO issues at all. i live or die by S1. and it hasn't been updated for anyone (mac OR pc) since 2008.

meanwhile, this is from the applied acoustics mac page:

"The VST and Audio Unit plug-ins are available in 32-bit only. The native 64-bit VST and Audio Unit plug-ins won't be available until the next major version."

so maybe they'll update (or maybe not).
seriously, tho. sell your mac, buy a PC, and get on with your life. (i will do the same, and will stop replying to your posts!) Very Happy


you are not a pro, i guess... you can live well with your crappy obsolete mac... Rolling Eyes Lots of "synths" on ipad, however HiHi
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:15 am reply with quote
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Where are papen synths


Rob Papen SubBoomBass is mentioned a lot in the side interviews.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:23 am reply with quote
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Where are papen synths


Rob Papen SubBoomBass is mentioned a lot in the side interviews.


by the way, every year come out those stupid lists, and every year they are totally different. Once they made them for hardware gear, see "the best synths ever" on sonicstate (at least that one was funny, with an actor telling jokes etc.).

Those lists are not serious. It is just a way to put under people's attention something "new" (e.g. the almost unknown synthmaster, the quite obsolete impOSCar etc.). I still laugh when think about "the best 2011 DAW in the world" list on musicradar (FL studio) Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:36 am reply with quote
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here it is (but BUY the mag, or the iPad version..). it's a great READ.

10 alchemy
9 fm8
8 diva
7 impOSCar2
6 zebra
5 omnisphere
4 dcam: synth squad
3 synthmaster
2 sylenth1
1 massive

my OWN list is pretty different. (and MY list is of course more 'correct')

now, let the ranting and raving begin... Very Happy


Is this based on reader votes or from CM reviews?
I agree with Massive, Sylenth, DCAM... Zebra only at #7 and Diva at #8?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:37 am reply with quote
As far as Sylenth is concerned, I think it's a great synth that is standing the test of time as it's just so easy to program and get good results. But it cannot be the best year after year for the simple reason better synths have come since.

Lennard doesn't do himself any favours, but he will answer support requests (Eventually)

But on a serious note, I really REALLY hope Sylenth isn't another Adventus. THAT would be a serious loss Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:40 am reply with quote
4damind wrote:
Is this based on reader votes or from CM reviews?
I agree with Massive, Sylenth, DCAM... Zebra only at #7 and Diva at #8?


their choices, based on their readers lists, facebook users, and their own lists.

i love these "top 10" lists solely for the discussion (or arguments) they stir up.
meanwhile, figured i'd post my own list (as the thread starter, it's my 'civic duty'):

5 dune
4 electraX
3 zebra
2 sylenth1
1 z3ta+ 2

z3ta is brand-new for me, but am finding it exceptional. and am waiting for the mac version of diversion…and dune2...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:58 am reply with quote
Echoes in the Attic wrote:
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Echoes in the Attic wrote:
billcarroll wrote:
Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Wow, CM and I have pretty similar taste in synths. The only one I haven't owned there is SynthMaster, and I may some day. No longer have sylenth1 and DCAM though. However I only sold sylenth1 because I'm convinced it's dead. Who leaves a synth in "beta" for over two years? To me that just shows a complete lack of care/respect for your customers.


I guess all of the music out there with Sylenth in it must be an aberration? It's just crazy that a synth that seems to be letting you down has been in more released music than any of us could track down or name in a lifetime.

Yeah, producing a plugin that is awesome is a terrible letdown Crying or Very sad


No quite the opposite. I bought it because it sounds great and I'm very aware that it's used all the time for good music. However I don't have confidence that it will be updated and move to 64 bit mac etc. So as much as I enjoyed it, I thought I'd stick with stuff that seems to have a future. There are many great plug-in synths to choose from, I don't need any one particular one so if a developer can't even be bothered to slap a final release together for a beta that's been over 2 years, I might as well go with the others. Just my opinion, use whatever you enjoy.


Personally I think you're helping create a caustic and negative atmosphere that causes developers to clam up. The constant badmouthing, speculation, and rumormongering just gets old, and shows a complete lack of care/respect.

Selling a great synth like Sylenth is ... cutting off one's nose to spite ... well, whatever.


I don't think I'm helping create a negative atmosphere towards Sylenth1. Sylenth1 being in beta for years did that on it's own. I'm not bad-mouting it, just pointing out that by any reasonable expectation, it seems to not be in development. The point of my post was that that's the only reason I sold it (when trying to downnside due to having too many synths), but it's still great. It sounds like you're being a little overly defensive about it. I'm glad you like it and glad you have faith in it's future (which maybe you don't, thus causing the defensiveness), but there's nothing wrong with pointing out that a developer has lost interest in maintaining a synth, it's just a simple truth that can't be argued about after 2 and half years of silence. But hey I wish him well in whatever is new job is, I'm sure he's brilliant at it. Wink


Just because a developer doesn't talk to you when you demand it doesn't mean they aren't developing or supporting the software, in this case Sylenth. Sylenth is well supported. If you have an issue the developer responds promptly. Badmouthing a developer because they won't respond to rumors or fear mongering isn't super responsible.

As for Sylenth, it works well for me and I just use it. No problem.

Here is a quote from Lennard from another thread
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4802938&highli ght=#4802938

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Please keep your ridiculous rumours and speculations to yourselves, here are some FACTS:

1. Sylenth1 is not, was not and never will be abandoned.
2. The source code did NOT get lost.
3. The last update was May 2010, not 3 years ago.
4. We provide full and fast support on daily basis via email for any problems or questions our customers may have. (However, questions and speculations about future updates/products will be ignored, so don't bother asking. This has always been the case and will always continue to be. This does not mean we are not working on new updates/products (in fact we are), it just means we choose not spread rumours about them).
5. Any future posts on this forum that contain rumours and gossip will be deleted permanently.
6. This topic will be closed.


Seems pretty clear to me.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:00 am reply with quote
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10 alchemy
9 fm8
8 diva
7 impOSCar2
6 zebra
5 omnisphere
4 dcam: synth squad
3 synthmaster
2 sylenth1
1 massive


Sylenth1 at number 2, last update of product was almost 4 years ago (version 2.2 was released mid-november 2008).

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