as i want alchemy to be first vst atm always and learn things i wanted to post it here . i try to learn more about this minimal approach or glitchy sounds, not the percs yet but the synths, they have some kind of normal sound but sometimes small reverbed reverse or whatever i cannot describe, plz check those marks and hopefully you will understand what sounds i mean.

2:10 min

4:10 min

11 mins

http://soundcloud.com/experimedia/marow-plus-minus-null-albu m

oh at 12:20 mins it's also a nice example! if you got the time to listen!

they repeat many times, and are hypnotic too, or delayed? and very lush mostly.

do some of you have any tips how to achieve them? it sounds easy but somehow it isnt so easy i think

big thanks!

sounds like basic minimal techno minor chord (synth playing root 3 semi tones 7 semitones and playing with the envelope on low pass filter) run through a lot of fx like delay reverb and some sort of noisy glitch layer of sound. If you heard it in isolation I bet you'd be surprised how simple it is. It's a case of the whole sounding more than the sum of it's parts... simple techniques... good execution.

First Item at 2.10 is a 'Clave' like an 808 'Clave' erghh I think filtered and pitched up a bit.

I think with a lot of sounds, the glitch bits are pre made, using crackles recorded either from a source like electrical gear, or 12" Vinyl or a plugin like 'Izotopes' Vinyl plugin, which is free.

http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/vinyl/

The sample is recorded and then cut up into a drum rack.

Try a crackle emulation plugin and see what reults you can get.

With Alchemy, I don't think it's particularly suited to this kind of thing, as it's multisampled patches are SFZ.

I make racks in Ableton for all sorts of things like this, Glitch, Rizers, Drops, Found Sounds, Impacts, Drones..

While not the same as a dedicated plugin, it's possible to simulate vinyl like sounds by importing a suitable sample using Granular mode and setting the Window to "Needle". This changes the shape of the grains, which become static like. WIth the right sample + stretch value or position modulation this can sound quite like vinyl or other "low-fi" background noise.


It goes without saying that there are loads of free x0x sample libraries available, this is a good place to start:

http://samples.kb6.de/downloads.php

In other news, those of us whole love minimal techno might be pleasantly surprised in a few months time ... ssssh

Peace,
Andy.

Interesting

Tease! This going to be a Camel something or a third-party something or other?

That would be one of ours ... but we're not talking about it yet!

Peace,
Andy.

I agree, it's often just other sounds interacting gently that yields certain effects. Played in isolation, the chords would sound quite tame, smooth and warm, but tame.

Talking about what?