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SynthMaster 2.5.4.142 Update!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:29 am reply with quote
just an fyi, not seeing the new buffer sizes on winx64, they show up fine in the 32bit vst, just not the 64
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:35 am reply with quote
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just an fyi, not seeing the new buffer sizes on winx64, they show up fine in the 32bit vst, just not the 64


Yup same ere!! Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:37 pm reply with quote
Just bought Synthmaster today, seems like an awesome thing, it's my first commercial software synth (I have a couple of hardware ones).

However, while doing an unison bass sound, I stumbled into something that I think is a bug. When you set the synth to any amount of unison voices, turn the pan knob to stereo pan the voices and then use the cutoff knob, the stereo output starts leaning more and more towards the right channel. Playing with the master pan knob does not help either as the lows and the highs are panned differently, I think the mids and highs above the cutoff are somehow forced on the right while the bass frequencies are "monoed" like they are supposed to.

Especially with bass sounds, for obvious reasons, I would like to easily be able to have the bass frequencies pretty much mono and the mids and highs stereo panned, but like this, it's impossible to do it within synthmaster.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:44 pm reply with quote
Just thought of something else:

Since you can do unison at the osc level, would it be hard to implement a hipass filter in addition to the lowpass/Tone knob already there?

You could get similar but different multi-band stereo panning results with this method to the method I mentioned in the previous post.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:01 pm reply with quote
EDIT: Could you send me the preset you created? or its screenshot?
Let me think about those.

Actually there is a trick to get highpass filter from lowpass Smile

HighPass = 1-Lowpass

So, using this with the additive osc we can get a highpass filter effect combining 2 oscillators with same waveform types and frequencies.

For instance, set osc1 to additive,

Wave1: Saw
Wave2: Saw, set tone to desired cutoff, and press "NEG" so it is reversed

So Wave1+Wave2 will be a highpassed saw

Let me try to create a patch for this and I'll upload it to the library.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:20 am reply with quote
aMUSEd wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
kv331 wrote:
Hi guys,

We're glad to announce another update for SynthMaster 2.5. Minor fixes:

v2.5.4.119
1. NEW: Added "Mouse Filter Lag" global parameter, so that mouse movements can be smoothened when editing knobs/etc.


Not so minor! Smile


This is working well for mouse movements so great work there. However I'm still getting the stepping when mapping a Kore controller knob to cutoff - this suggests (as I originally surmised) that there is no smoothing being applied to host automation - which is what Kore uses to map knobs (NI made it this way because host automation should actually be smoother as it is 512 instead of 128 bit resolution). So whatever was done to mouse movement needs to be done to host automation as well (again in all other synths but one that I have used - and that is a considerable number - this isn't a problem and regardless of whether a person is using a mouse, midi controller or Kore you should have an identical response)


Bump for this - it's been several months since the last one so I think it's time


Patience is a virtue Smile


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:54 am reply with quote
I just realized that my previous post about the bug might be a little unclear, by the cutoff I mean the unison cutoff specifically, next to the unison controls for for both oscillators in a layer. You can reproduce the bug in four steps by starting from the initialized preset ("default sound").

1. Set any amount of unison voices for the layer (not in the oscillator level).
2. Turn the unison stereo "Pan" knob to the maximum position.
3. Turn on the filter section and increase the filter "Cutoff" to hear the effect in the mids and highs (I did not notice this earlier because I have the filter on always, but it has to be on for this to happen).
4. If you now turn the unison "Cutoff" knob, the stereo signal starts leaning or panning towards the right side.[/quote]
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:29 pm reply with quote
And thanks for the great and inventive hipass trick. I bet there are many such trick yet to be found within this synth.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:04 pm reply with quote
bm1000 wrote:
I just realized that my previous post about the bug might be a little unclear, by the cutoff I mean the unison cutoff specifically, next to the unison controls for for both oscillators in a layer. You can reproduce the bug in four steps by starting from the initialized preset ("default sound").

1. Set any amount of unison voices for the layer (not in the oscillator level).
2. Turn the unison stereo "Pan" knob to the maximum position.
3. Turn on the filter section and increase the filter "Cutoff" to hear the effect in the mids and highs (I did not notice this earlier because I have the filter on always, but it has to be on for this to happen).
4. If you now turn the unison "Cutoff" knob, the stereo signal starts leaning or panning towards the right side.


I think this is a feature not a bug Laughing

because cutoff spread increases the cutoff frequency from L to R (assuming pan spread is also on. So it's gonna be heard as if the signal shifted to the R

How about increasing the osc "Voices" parameter to 4 for instance, and use only 2 unison voices? This way one filter will be on the L, the other on the R
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:51 am reply with quote
Now I get it, thanks for the fast answers. I misunderstood the function of the unison cutoff.

I'm very pleased with Synthmaster, the only thing bugging me still are the skins. I like the orange one the best, but I would like something less futuristic. Are there more skins anywhere, even though there is the GUI editor I could not find any? I also tried using the GUI editor but could not really get the hang of it, maybe I just need to learn to use it and make my own.

Anyways, thanks for an awesome synthesizer.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:35 am reply with quote
I was curious if there are any good Wavetable demonstrations with Synthmaster. Curious how it compares to other wavetable type synths out there. I haven't looked in the manual, but I'm guessing you can load your own wavs into it. I think it would be awesome to load different wavs into it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:55 pm reply with quote
Edit sent a support request ticket resolved Smile

Hi

Recently installed NI Machine 1.7.2 on Win7x64 with SM2.5 latest version. Whilst it shows up and works in Cubase 6.5.3 it is not showing up in Maschine. Any known issues or actions I may have missed please?

Thanks

M

Edit sent a support request ticket resolved Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:01 pm reply with quote
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:46 am reply with quote
liquidsound wrote:
N/M


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:50 am reply with quote
aMUSEd wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
kv331 wrote:
Hi guys,

We're glad to announce another update for SynthMaster 2.5. Minor fixes:

v2.5.4.119
1. NEW: Added "Mouse Filter Lag" global parameter, so that mouse movements can be smoothened when editing knobs/etc.


Not so minor! Smile


This is working well for mouse movements so great work there. However I'm still getting the stepping when mapping a Kore controller knob to cutoff - this suggests (as I originally surmised) that there is no smoothing being applied to host automation - which is what Kore uses to map knobs (NI made it this way because host automation should actually be smoother as it is 512 instead of 128 bit resolution). So whatever was done to mouse movement needs to be done to host automation as well (again in all other synths but one that I have used - and that is a considerable number - this isn't a problem and regardless of whether a person is using a mouse, midi controller or Kore you should have an identical response)


Bump for this - it's been several months since the last one so I think it's time


Patience is a virtue Smile


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Bump since you seem to be missing this, kv331. Smile
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