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Cinesamples wins in court
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Jake Jackson
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:27 am reply with quote
Someone made a mistake:

http://www.filmmusicmag.com/?p=9356

Good to see that piracy is being fought against.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:45 am reply with quote
It's nice to see this kind of victory. Good luck collecting on the judgement though...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:50 am reply with quote
Unfortunately, the court will not be sending armed agents to Chile to force that fellow to pay up.

The article doesn't mention if (or how much)the downloaders payed the 'cracker'.
There may not be anywhere near the amount of money available that the judgement calls for.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:16 pm reply with quote
This is old hat (the story is 6 months old) and was discussed quite a bit at the time.

The case is - as others have said - largely symbolic, given that Mr. Casas is located thousands of miles from US jurisdiction.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:36 pm reply with quote
The settlement could be collected if CineSamples goes through all of the complicated international hoops to have the Chilean SJC support the settlement, or some version of it. There are policies and procedures in place for dealing with multinational litigation, but ultimately you need a "working relationship" with the foreign govt. Also default settlements is a complicating factor. From what I've read of Chile, specifically law changes in recent years, that country is on the short list of slightly-easier-to-deal-with countries wrt. litigation. In the end, I'm not sure the actual costs + time (where time = cost when it comes to lawyers Smile ) is worth it, unless you know Cases has substantial assets to freeze, etc. Which most of us don't. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:51 pm reply with quote
I hate piracy. But I'm NOT a cinesamples fan. I got hosed on metallurgy and since you can't resell it, it's just a bad experience writeoff.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:15 pm reply with quote
I actually quite like Cinesamples and some of their products.
But personal preference or individual negative experiences aside, I congratulate them to their ... sort-of success.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:16 pm reply with quote
...let's hope that this success brings a huge SALE with it. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:19 pm reply with quote
chokehold wrote:
...let's hope that this success brings a huge SALE with it. Wink


Or one where they support kontakt 5 HiHi
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:54 pm reply with quote
hibidy wrote:
Or one where they support kontakt 5 HiHi

Not so keen on that, 'cause that would mean they'd stop supporting my Kontakt 4... so shhhh! Surprised
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:35 pm reply with quote
chokehold wrote:
hibidy wrote:
Or one where they support kontakt 5 HiHi

Not so keen on that, 'cause that would mean they'd stop supporting my Kontakt 4... so shhhh! Surprised


Nah. Anyhoo, I took this opportunity to voice my frustration, sorry about that Embarassed
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:20 pm reply with quote
What happened with Metallurgy?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:47 am reply with quote
Screw the courts...just send a couple of guys down to Chile and break Pablo's legs.....that's how we do it in Vegas...... Laughing

But seriously it's good to see a victory no matter how symbolic..... Thumbs Up!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:30 am reply with quote
EvilDragon wrote:
What happened with Metallurgy?


The samples take 5 million years to load and then when they do, the GUI is all wonky. I sent a support ticket asking about when they'd support K5 and they said use K4 Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:46 am reply with quote
Hmmm, they load slower only the first time. If you resave in K4.2 and use background loading it's quite a bit faster.

If the GUI is a bit wonky, the graphics aren't pulled from the correct folder (i.e. if you're using K5 instead of K4). However, there's a relatively easy fix for that.

The graphics should be installed here:

Win XP -> C:\Documents And Programs\<your username>\My Documents\Native Instruments\Kontakt 4\Pictures

Win 7 -> C:\Users\<your username>\Documents\Native Instruments\Kontakt 4\Pictures

Simply copy the relevant Cinesamples folder found within that Pictures folder to the same path, except instead of "Kontakt 4" folder, use "Kontakt 5". Voila, it works. Similar thing is valid for OSX as well.


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