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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:58 am reply with quote
Discuss this fantastic synth here...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:04 am reply with quote
Great synth but:

needs an update and

needs a Mac version
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:29 am reply with quote
An OSX version was released more than two years ago. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:34 am reply with quote
Oh wow so it was. I thought all COFX stuff was Win only. I own the Win version, how do I get the Mac version then?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:41 am reply with quote
actually I'm not quite sure - if in doubt, simply contact Jon, I'd say... Smile


Kubik 2.5 is the only COFX plugin which:

- has been coded in C++ instead of Delphi

- was developed and released after RPCX was founded

- is avaliable for OSX
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:45 am reply with quote
I was disappointed with the sound, it has the potential to be a fantastic synth but sounds very digital and metallic. I had problems with the gui becoming unresponsive too. It is a shame Jon didn't develop it further and improve it.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:57 am reply with quote
Personally I think it can sound like almost anything. Hence I would not describe it as 'digital and metallic' at all - it can do that too, but it can also sound very organic, breathy, analog-like, warm, beautyful. It's simply put a wonderful instrument.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:02 am reply with quote
Caco wrote:
I was disappointed with the sound, it has the potential to be a fantastic synth but sounds very digital and metallic.


That's one of the good things about it, although it can be both.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:28 am reply with quote
I simply love Kubik. You can come very close to the sound of a Microwave2 (i own two MicrowaveXTs). It only lacks some "grit" from the hardware (the Microwave cuts thru every mix), in return Kubik can sound more "hi-fi".

+ great possibilities of creating your own waves/wavetables with additive synthesis
+ creating wavetables by resynthesizing samples (works best with samples without detuning/phasing)
+ broad range of sounds possible from digital to analog-like, from clean to dirty
+ low price
o you need to get used to the signal flow and modulation matrix
- the gui is sometimes a bit sluggish (on my computer win7/64)
- it's a shame that it won't be updated any more

Kubik sounds at least twice as good when you put some Valhalla Übermod or stw ReflexPro on it.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:24 am reply with quote
Caco wrote:
I was disappointed with the sound, it has the potential to be a fantastic synth but sounds very digital and metallic. I had problems with the gui becoming unresponsive too. It is a shame Jon didn't develop it further and improve it.


i'm in the minority it seems as i agree with you. Just don't dig the actual sound at all. It has this weird thing to it which i can't explain but just sounds harsh
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:31 am reply with quote
Being a WT synth, how does it measure up to PPG?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:32 pm reply with quote
imo it pisses all over it... Kubik is incredibly powerful - there are few synths with as many modulation possibilites - e.g. the LFOs are on a league of their own, then there are sequencers, multistage-envelopes, etc. ... the modulators themselves can also be modulated
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:37 pm reply with quote
ttoz wrote:
Caco wrote:
I was disappointed with the sound, it has the potential to be a fantastic synth but sounds very digital and metallic. I had problems with the gui becoming unresponsive too. It is a shame Jon didn't develop it further and improve it.


i'm in the minority it seems as i agree with you. Just don't dig the actual sound at all. It has this weird thing to it which i can't explain but just sounds harsh



like I already mentioned, Kubik doesn't so much have a sound of its own as many other synths have . it so much depends on your wavetables and how you modulate them, how you tweak the envelopes and the LFOs, also the OSc mode, etc. - actually it's very modular - Kubik is more like a small and tidy yet very smartly equipped toolbox.

It may sound bad, broken, harsh digital and what not - but then that's you...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:00 pm reply with quote
I LOVE the KUBIK! It's great for jamming live IMO. also as was said above it's a great little toolbox who's sound fits into most any mix.

It needs to be updated. I fear I won't be able to play it on whatever operating system is down the road and that thought makes me sad...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:46 pm reply with quote
I'll + all the good things said. It is an amazing tool.
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