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Setting Reverb time decays (and PreDelay etc) to BPM?

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4ppleseed
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126 posts since 31 Oct, 2004

Postby 4ppleseed; Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:57 am Setting Reverb time decays (and PreDelay etc) to BPM?

Hi all,
I was watching this video where Dave Pensado and Arial Chobat talk about setting Reverb decays to the BPM of the song:

http://youtu.be/xQUYiaHNv5Q?t=13m45s


I've looked around for a 'Reverb Calculator' or whatnot but no dice. Anyone got a simple way to work this out?

Thanks 8)
BERFAB
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5350 posts since 25 Mar, 2004

Postby BERFAB; Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:16 am

IIRC the owners manual for the Ensoniq ASR10 (and possibly their other synths) had a BPM chart intended for use with delays and reverbs. I don't know if you're looking for something different because you're dealing with reverb decays, but the division of beats into seconds should be the same.

If no one else finds it online, I'll see if I can find it and scan it.

Cheers
-B
Berfab
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BERFAB
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5350 posts since 25 Mar, 2004

Postby BERFAB; Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:19 am

Actually, these online calculators give you very detailed information. Take your pick:

http://www.thewhippinpost.co.uk/tools/d ... ulator.htm

http://web.forret.com/tools/bpm_tempo.asp

http://www.musiccalculator.com/

Cheers
-B
Berfab
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4ppleseed
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Postby 4ppleseed; Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:11 pm




AHhhh I saw this and didn't put two and two together. So you can see from the youtube video they have the predelay set to 29.5ms. The bpm of Superbass is 126. So that means they are setting the predelay 1/64 note.

But why is the actual time of the Reverb 1.88s? That doesn't seem to match up to anything.


EDIT: Scrap that. I think the track is actually 127. Therefore the 64 is bang on 29.5 and they are setting the reverb time to around the 'Seconds Per Measure' - is that common? To have the reverb almost 'pump' each bar a bit like sidechain?
BERFAB
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Postby BERFAB; Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:48 am

You don't see a lot of these charts anymore because most products now automatically sync to the beat that you set. The math is all done internally. It's been over a decade since I even glanced at one of these charts.

I'm afraid I'm not going to be much help on your specific question as I tend to really only care about matching the BPM to delay times and I use my ears for everything else.
Berfab
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osiris
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7318 posts since 20 Nov, 2003, from Lost and Spaced

Postby osiris; Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:32 am

I thought most producers just sidechained reverb tails to the kick with a compressor. Too easy?
wesleymayhem
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150 posts since 1 May, 2006

Postby wesleymayhem; Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:16 am

There's a VST out there called DTFC that I use a lot for this. There is a legacy thread on KVR about it here: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/printview ... 05&start=0
PeterL
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1380 posts since 27 Mar, 2002, from Austria

Postby PeterL; Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:01 am

I do it by ear without any calculator with this plugin:
http://studiostav.com/products-page/
It's much faster and if your favourite reverb has just % instead of ms for decay time no calculator will help....

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