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SonicBirth v2 alpha

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Kewl
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176 posts since 11 Apr, 2007, from Montreal, Canada

Postby Kewl; Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:37 am

makira wrote:Although, it seems they discontinued Pluggo (why?).

Conventional wisdom on the demise of Pluggo is that it was because of the partnership with Ableton, ie Max for Live.
tremblap
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9 posts since 1 Jun, 2010, from Huddersfield

Postby tremblap; Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:16 am

the reality of the Pluggo desmise was that the AU format change (again for 10.4) was just one step too much in supporting everything. it is a small company with limited resources, and re-writing again everything was not possible...

M4L was not even in dream state at that moment, and I know from insiders. Don't see evil where there are none ;-)

p
Ewjm
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3 posts since 10 Feb, 2012

Postby Ewjm; Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:48 am

This is great news, very happy that SB is being developed still/again :-)
I will be testing the alpha soon.

Keep up the good work!
leannagia
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6 posts since 22 Sep, 2012

Postby leannagia; Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:19 am

* I made a few of my own circuits and noticed that if i change something inside this circuit i can't save it as a new circuit. Also when i save the project this changes inside the circuit will not be saved.
* I can't seems to make any kind of feedback loop, not only when using delay but in every mathematical function, for example i want the result to be added to the input.
* And final thing - what is the z-1?

Thanks
makira
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146 posts since 24 Mar, 2005

Postby makira; Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:01 am

leannagia wrote:* I made a few of my own circuits and noticed that if i change something inside this circuit i can't save it as a new circuit. Also when i save the project this changes inside the circuit will not be saved.
* I can't seems to make any kind of feedback loop, not only when using delay but in every mathematical function, for example i want the result to be added to the input.
* And final thing - what is the z-1?

Thanks


1) pre-built circuits are set in stone. Any changes in them will affect all documents using them (since they only keep a reference - the name). To save a pre-built circuit again, you need to select it, and do 'save circuit', overwrite the file in ~/Documents/SonicBirth/Circuits/ and then relaunch SonicBirth. Yes, this is a pretty crappy workflow, but this is a very early alpha...
2 & 3) You need to use the z-1 element to make a feedback loop. It creates a one sample delay, and allows you to connect an input to its output.

Regarding the z-1 notation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_delay_line

Also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_filter

If you check the lowpass pre-built circuit, it'll give you an idea.
Last edited by makira on Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:16 am, edited 1 time in total.
makira
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146 posts since 24 Mar, 2005

Postby makira; Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:03 am

Heard the sample rate scraper effect listening to Deadmau5, so I took a few minutes to implement it.

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/zpse1w4ege05pg ... u.zip?dl=1
zmix
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146 posts since 17 Aug, 2005

Postby zmix; Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:44 am

Makira,

Thank you for your continued efforts. SB2 looks like it's going to be a significant improvement. I love that the inside of elements such as "smoother" are visible. When all of the functions are implemented this is going to be a very very powerful platform.

Do you plan to allow importation of SB1 algos? I've spent thousands of hours creating some incredible stuff in SB1.

-CZ
makira
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146 posts since 24 Mar, 2005

Postby makira; Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:43 am

zmix wrote:Do you plan to allow importation of SB1 algos? I've spent thousands of hours creating some incredible stuff in SB1.


Not right now, and even if I implement that, it'll only be partial, because od design differences.
makira
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146 posts since 24 Mar, 2005

Postby makira; Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:13 am

Another alpha:
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/u8lr59l0f7fn6h ... 2.zip?dl=1

Changes:
- Added an equation element
- constant element can now accept formulas (ie: pi/2 or sin(2*e+1) )
(both will be appear s red if the formula doesn't parse)
- Prebuilt modules are now properly marked as locked (it wasn't the case due to a mistake)

Cheers!
- m
Kewl
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176 posts since 11 Apr, 2007, from Montreal, Canada

Postby Kewl; Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:27 am

Equation or constant with -1 are red.
makira
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146 posts since 24 Mar, 2005

Postby makira; Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:13 pm

Kewl wrote:Equation or constant with -1 are red.

Oups, forgot the unary minus operator... use (0-1) in the meantime, or revert to previous alpha.
zmix
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146 posts since 17 Aug, 2005

Postby zmix; Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:50 pm

Is a "feedback" element forthcoming or is thee a new way to implement feedback?
leannagia
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6 posts since 22 Sep, 2012

Postby leannagia; Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:19 pm

The au plugins have a problem that every time I reopen the project, the values are saved but it plays the default values of the plugin. To make it work again I need to slightly move each fader.
With the vst version it happens every time I deactivate and reactivate the plugin.
I checked it with ableton live, cubase and garageband and got the same results.
but I haven't checked it out with the new alpha yet.
makira
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146 posts since 24 Mar, 2005

Postby makira; Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:45 am

zmix wrote:Is a "feedback" element forthcoming or is thee a new way to implement feedback?


It's called 'z-1' now.
makira
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146 posts since 24 Mar, 2005

Postby makira; Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:46 am

leannagia wrote:The au plugins have a problem that every time I reopen the project, the values are saved but it plays the default values of the plugin. To make it work again I need to slightly move each fader.
With the vst version it happens every time I deactivate and reactivate the plugin.
I checked it with ableton live, cubase and garageband and got the same results.
but I haven't checked it out with the new alpha yet.


I'll have to look into that.
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