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Zebra program change
tdavilio
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:08 pm reply with quote
Hi,
I just got Zebra but can't get it to accept program changes from Behringer 2000 controller or axiom 25. Windows 7, Cubase 6.5.
I'd like to be able to program change like keyswitching. With buttons on the Behringer.

Appreciate any help.

Tony
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bmrzycki
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:15 am reply with quote
Hi Tony,
program changes messages only switch between presets in the "MIDI Programs" subfolder. It's best to name the presets you want to switch between something like 000-name.h2p -> 127-name.h2p so you know the order the presets will be loaded.

If you are just looking for a way to scroll through presets while auditioning them try the keyboard arrows. It works in some DAWs.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:08 am reply with quote
Also, MIDI Program Changes only work for presets that are in MIDI Programs at the time the host was started. That's because Zebra caches those programs in memory on first load. It needs to do so because one can't access the file system upon a MIDI message.

Hence, whenever you add/store/drag presets into teh MIDI Programs folder, don't forget to reload Smile

(side note - we just started designing a concept that allows users to rescan the MIDI Programs folder on the fly... finally Embarassed )
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tdavilio
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:10 am reply with quote
Hi bmrcycki,
Thanks for responding. Yes that's what I'm doing but not working.. Do u have to putt the program change number in front of the preset?
Thanks,
Tony
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:29 pm reply with quote
Urs wrote:
Also, MIDI Program Changes only work for presets that are in MIDI Programs at the time the host was started. That's because Zebra caches those programs in memory on first load. It needs to do so because one can't access the file system upon a MIDI message.

Hence, whenever you add/store/drag presets into teh MIDI Programs folder, don't forget to reload Smile

(side note - we just started designing a concept that allows users to rescan the MIDI Programs folder on the fly... finally Embarassed )



Any possibility of adding support for Bank Select messages to select subfolders within MIDI Programs folder? Or how does this work when you have subfolders AND more than 128 programs in MIDI Programs folder?
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Urs
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:36 pm reply with quote
EvilDragon wrote:
Urs wrote:
Also, MIDI Program Changes only work for presets that are in MIDI Programs at the time the host was started. That's because Zebra caches those programs in memory on first load. It needs to do so because one can't access the file system upon a MIDI message.

Hence, whenever you add/store/drag presets into teh MIDI Programs folder, don't forget to reload Smile

(side note - we just started designing a concept that allows users to rescan the MIDI Programs folder on the fly... finally Embarassed )



Any possibility of adding support for Bank Select messages to select subfolders within MIDI Programs folder? Or how does this work when you have subfolders AND more than 128 programs in MIDI Programs folder?

It's been like that for a while... bank 0 is the MIDI Programs folder itself, other bank selects switch to subsequent folders.

It only responds to CC#0 though, and it doesn't just switch the preset, just the bank for the next program change.
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bmrzycki
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:00 pm reply with quote
tdavilio wrote:
Hi bmrzycki,
Thanks for responding. Yes that's what I'm doing but not working.. Do u have to putt the program change number in front of the preset?
Thanks,
Tony
Hi Tony, no you don't. I just recommended that so you know the order the presets are loaded. If it's still not working make sure:

1. you have multiple presets in the midi programs folder BEFORE you open Zebra. They are cached on start.
2. Make sure program change messages are getting to Zebra -- usually a midi logging tool will help you discover this.
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tdavilio
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:00 pm reply with quote
Okay Thanks guys!

Tony
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:23 pm reply with quote
Urs wrote:
It only responds to CC#0 though, and it doesn't just switch the preset, just the bank for the next program change.


Clever. So we get 128 * 128 = 16384 presets instantly switchable. Cool!
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