maxxxter wrote:Great, consider yourself muted then.
Since I'm now muted, I don't need to answer this.
Then again, it's sad really... dunno if you ever learned something of my tech-posts. Whatever, doesn't matter...
maxxxter wrote:What? Have you even tried Space Boy? It has considerably more features! Even a proper spectrum display! Also, the internal link system is, IMO, a much better way of implementing this idea, especially given that setting-up a vst 2.4 'native sidechaining' in some hosts causes real headache. Btw, different format/platform support does not make it 'more current', at least not in my book.
Yes I have tried it, and I did like it's concept (I also hard artifact issues btw). But I never needed it since I use my ears and sutiable EQs, or sidechain compression (ducking) instead.
maxxxter wrote:So, you admit to speaking nonsense?
Thanks, I thought so.
The same could be said for half of KVR.
Said it before: I don't feel adressed by this.
maxxxter wrote:You have a VERY selective perception of what's being said here, only to suit your own views, of course. I completely disagree with you here; points made by people so far are valid and...
Again, same could be said about the likes of "you" as well.
maxxxter wrote:First of all - I'm not your dog, so watch your language!
Secondly, if you have the right to "express yourself" here, the rest of us have that same right too. I'll speak my mind whenever I feel is appropriate.
Who should watch his/her language?
Now please do a barrel roll - press R twice.
Oh sorry - wrong game.
Burillo wrote:yes. overpriced - fewer sales, less support, good chance of having less revenue. right price - more sales, more support, good chance of having more revenue. vicious circle, god dammit. the point isn't that the price is high. the point is that it's too high for a lot of people (at least in this thread) to consider purchasing it. WavesFactory could have stood his ground, and as i said, i wouldn't object to that. are you saying i can't state my own opinion that the price is (well, was) too high for me to consider purchasing it?
Do you imply that? Cause I don't think I ever said it.
I critisized the way how it was adressed. And you seemed to be one of the more reasonable ones out there.
Burillo wrote:i'm sorry, but what are you talking about? just do a search on "overpriced" on KVR, you'll see LOADS of complaining about different established developers - IK Multimedia, Steinberg, Waves, etc. etc. This is obvious bullshit on your part.
Sorry, but it's not.
Agreed, IKM is constantly being critisized about their prices, but they also do constant sales. Steinberg is critisized due to their overpriced plugins (see Yamaha and Neve) not to mention upgrade cycles - but people shell out the money. Waves recently dropped all their prices, but is still critisized due to the WUP plan (which is optional).
I do know the other way around as well. Linplug, while they were still in their beginnings - often critisized for their way of doing things - especially CP schemes, not necessarily price. Klanghelm was critisized for his already low prices to begin with, yet it was still to expensive for certain people. SKnote (I still consider him independent) recently dropped ALL his prices - he was also critisized before.
And the prime example from most recent days:
B.A.Tech - high prices for SE/SM standard modules, crazy marketing, crap page. He now dropped everything and turned freeware.
Or do I need to bring up Crysonic as well? The prime exampe of how not to do it, ever? Yes don't think so.
Burillo wrote:so you're saying more sales at a good price cannot bring more revenue than less sales at a higher price?
To some extend - yes.
Burillo wrote:ah, yes, that old bullshit story about piracy and how no one will create anything anymore if X or Y happens. tell that to bootsy, lepou, and ignite amps and all the other great plugin developers that release free plugins rivalling the best commercial ones.[/b]
This is their opinion to do so, and I know that certain developers from that bunch would love to get paid, or get donations. Then again, these tools aren't cracked.
Regarding "not creating anything anymore" - take a dive through KVR's backlog with this topic. Due to this, certain developers lost interest in releasing new tools, or went on to high class CP systems (which in turn is then critisized).
It's a give/take situation here.
I only try to stand in for the developer here.
Apparently people love free candy, er I mean "low priced" tools - so everyone is happy. Why continuing this debate then? I said it earlier - excellent work, "community".
One of the reasons why I don't like KVR - but I live with it, because it's one of the only great plugin based discussion boards out there. And I know it can be better than this.
Good luck with your plugin. While I personally don't need such a solution (I'm using dynamic EQ's, sidechained solutions or simply my ears), I'm sure some will get a use out of it.
I rather have an eye on your samples for the time being.
Have a good day, everyone.