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Access Virus ti Os5 and Logic Pro 9.17 working ok?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:07 am reply with quote
gearslut wrote:
Do the low latency, glitches, and bugs occur all the time or only when you are making complex patches? In other words, if you played a simple preset with out tweaking it would it cause the before mentioned problems?

Thanks for the help!


For me, it's totally dependent on the DAW, regardless of the patch used. Some seem to be able to compensate for the latency by "seeing ahead" or whatever. In Studio One v2, no real latency issues when using 128 samples for my Delta1010LT. It's slightly more sluggish than a normal VST, but it's barely noticable. I also tried the demo version of Sonar X1 and it worked fine if you followed the Virus configuration guide (you have to make a few advanced changes in the Sonar settings). With Ableton Live 7, latency was pretty bad and in Reaper it was unbearable.

Other than that, no real "bugs" or glitches. Sometimes when opening an existing project in SO v2, it won't read all the parameters (some remain from the init patch), but I think that's a bug in SO rather than the Virus software. Just close and re-open Virus Control and/or the project seems to fix it.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:23 am reply with quote
Any chance of a TI3 which might address these issues? I am currently saving up for a Virus TI Keyboard, but if the TI thing is flakey with Logic I might just buy a second hand Virus B or C until a new Hardware revision is released that runs reliably with the TI functionality.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:46 am reply with quote
I doubt it. The TI 2 is relatively recent and seems to use the same driver. There are only two drivers that I'm aware of: TI & Snow. Access is one of very few hardware companies that seem to care at all about upgrades to the existing product and I think it's because they aren't addicted to product releases and obsolescence. Smile Even if they release something new, they maintain their development investment by not changing the hardware so much that it needs totally new software. The original TI I have is using the same software the TI 2 uses. I'm glad. Better chance of the product being well done than if they're constantly replacing it.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:48 am reply with quote
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Actually, the now-advised configuration is to connect the Virus Ti on a port on a MTT usb hub. If you're running an Intel H77 or Z77 chipset, its actually pretty necessary.


Google wasn't very helpful here. Can you explain MTT USB hubs?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:06 am reply with quote
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Ashe37 wrote:
Actually, the now-advised configuration is to connect the Virus Ti on a port on a MTT usb hub. If you're running an Intel H77 or Z77 chipset, its actually pretty necessary.


Google wasn't very helpful here. Can you explain MTT USB hubs?


ok, a usb hub has a chip in it called a transaction transciever. it sets the bandwidth for every downstream port in the hub. If you plug a USB 1 device into a hub, it says " ok usb 1 bandwidth" and usb 2 devices end up fighting for bandwidth. an MTT hub has more than one chip,and so the device at each port can request and get locked to its bandwidth. That is a greatly simplified explanation, but anyway
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:12 am reply with quote
Thanks for that. Is it relatively easy to identify hubs that are mtt? When I searched, google wanted to give me links to mitt romney :yuck:
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:28 am reply with quote
Search google shopping with the term Multiple Transaction Translator
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:29 am reply with quote
For what it's worth, I've had pretty smooth dealings with the Virus TI in Cubase on PC since I bought it. I haven't upgraded to the latest beta OS though.

If I could do it again, I wouldn't have bought my Virus TI. I barely turn it on these days. With the money you would spend on the Virus TI, I suggest buying Omnisphere, Sylenth1, Massive and Zebra2 and you'll have yourself a hell of a sound source which integrates seamlessly into any DAW and doesn't have the burden of hardware (realtime renders, latency ... )

The best thing the Virus TI has going for it these days are the built in presets (which are excellent), but with the left over cash, you could always buy a great set of soundsets for Sylenth1, Massive and Zebra. The Omnisphere presets that come with it are of the same if not better quality than the Virus, although naturally, they are a very different set of sounds.

The latest Virus TI OS has been in beta for a very VERY long time too, not sure what's going on there.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:24 am reply with quote
All true... But it has knobs!! And they're already ready for use. No software has that. It's gotten where I wish there was a way to have physical controls without configuring stuff on generic control surfaces. I tried to sell my space-eating ProjectMix control surface (eBay disaster), and I've not taken it down again since testing that it came back in good condition because it really sucks to use on-screen controls and I've once again gotten used to having physical controls for shuttle, solo, mute, volume, etc.

That's why I wanted the Virus. Now if only I would get round to playing with it more...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:29 am reply with quote
This looks like it might be the sort of thing:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Manhattan-161039-2-0-Hi-Speed-Ultra/ dp/B0035LXOPY
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:49 am reply with quote
yup, that's one
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:30 am reply with quote
Just bought it, looks perfect and good price too. I've seen some MTT hubs priced in 3 figures
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:57 pm reply with quote
Is there a way to tell if a hub I have is using MTT? It's an older one. Adaptec XHub7 (plus?).
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:16 pm reply with quote
I don't know of a way to tell other than doing bandwidth tests on multiple attached USB devices...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:55 pm reply with quote
Tech specs don't mention it so probably not:

http://download.adaptec.com/pdfs/installation_guides/xhub_qs g.pdf
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