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C165a VCA compressor with sidechain

Official support for: sknote.it

Moderator: quintosardo

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bduffy
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19389 posts since 13 Feb, 2003, from Vancouver, Canada

Postby bduffy; Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:44 am

quintosardo wrote:
bduffy wrote:
quintosardo wrote:Ah! I'm really curious about this one, too. It is a weeeird thing, wonderful toy. Seriously, who designed the hardware must be crazy.

But maybe it is just me, who knows... :hihi:

Do you mean the way the settings work? It's definitely a little different than most...

I'm going to bed, but quick question: is "AUTO" auto-release, or auto-attack and release? Or is it auto-threshold too? When I switch it off at strong settings, I hear a big change in gain, and distortion/compression artefacts - switch it back on, gone!


No, I was joking, just saying I may be the only one liking it so much ;)

Auto is another world. In the hw manual it is called an automatic atk and rls management, but the circuits actually change more than that. It switches from peak to rms, too.

If you look at the manual for the hw you'll see how vague the specs are.
Who used the hw knows how it is a too-fast unit, real fun for some uses. The follwing products got about one half of those speed ranges.

Reading now...kind of cool, reading a hardware manual to understand my software!

I didn't realize the dbx was this program-dependant. This explains why sometimes it seems like the compressor's attack/release has changed because, well, it has.

But to be clear: adjusting the attack/release with "AUTO" on does nothing, right? I know on some compressors, it affects the time of the auto-release.
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bduffy
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Postby bduffy; Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:15 am

Here's what I was noodling with last night:

Drums-C165a-Test-01.mp3

First is a dry kit, then c165 on every channel, then a heavy c165 on the drum buss too.
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Crackbaby
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2856 posts since 10 Sep, 2003, from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden

Postby Crackbaby; Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:24 am

nice chunky compression! cant wait to try it myself
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Soundcraft EFX12, Alesis 3630, Nanocompressor, Zoom G13, Tapco 3630
Gordon-Smith Gypsy, Yamaha THR10, P-80
M-Audio Delta 24/96 PCI
sinkmusic
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Postby sinkmusic; Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:47 am

Yes indeed, it sounds great !
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quintosardo
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Postby quintosardo; Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:39 am

Yes, atk and rls knobs are completely disabled in auto mode.

Great listening to the drums example now!
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Crackbaby
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2856 posts since 10 Sep, 2003, from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden

Postby Crackbaby; Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:52 am

In Mulab the compressor has no external inputs for the sidechain :-o
Same in EnergyXT
In reaper it only shows 2in/2out (left+right/left+right)
Elektron Machinedrum Mk1 UW, Analog4, Octatrack
Soundcraft EFX12, Alesis 3630, Nanocompressor, Zoom G13, Tapco 3630
Gordon-Smith Gypsy, Yamaha THR10, P-80
M-Audio Delta 24/96 PCI
quintosardo
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Postby quintosardo; Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:19 am

Yes, this version has internal sidechain!
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Postby X2; Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:37 am

Just downloaded now, so going to try with the others I have, cheers quintisardo
Crackbaby
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2856 posts since 10 Sep, 2003, from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden

Postby Crackbaby; Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:53 am

quintosardo wrote:Yes, this version has internal sidechain!


but ... but .... ... there's a button saying 'externa'? :-o
Elektron Machinedrum Mk1 UW, Analog4, Octatrack
Soundcraft EFX12, Alesis 3630, Nanocompressor, Zoom G13, Tapco 3630
Gordon-Smith Gypsy, Yamaha THR10, P-80
M-Audio Delta 24/96 PCI
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Postby X2; Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:55 am

Crackbaby wrote:
quintosardo wrote:Yes, this version has internal sidechain!


but ... but .... ... there's a button saying 'externa'? :-o


moan,moan,moan, ive only been here a few days and you sure do groan a lot, everyone else seemed happy about it enough to convince me to buy it, now im hearing this and its giving me second thoughts as I havent got round to trying it yet. Is it really that bad and should I get a refund mr CrackBaby sir :-o
Crackbaby
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2856 posts since 10 Sep, 2003, from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden

Postby Crackbaby; Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:03 am

uhm.. you do whatever you like :?

Am i wrong to ask what the 'external' button is for?
I am happy with my purchase regardless. Maybe my choice of similes caused confusion ... :shrug:
Elektron Machinedrum Mk1 UW, Analog4, Octatrack
Soundcraft EFX12, Alesis 3630, Nanocompressor, Zoom G13, Tapco 3630
Gordon-Smith Gypsy, Yamaha THR10, P-80
M-Audio Delta 24/96 PCI
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Burillo
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Postby Burillo; Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:09 am

OK now that 165 is out of the way... can we get an EMT and LA3A in StripBUS? :-D
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Postby X2; Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:09 am

Crackbaby wrote:uhm.. you do whatever you like :?

Am i wrong to ask what the 'external' button is for?
I am happy with my purchase regardless. Maybe my choice of similes caused confusion ... :shrug:


Yeah, soz about that, I was just having a little poke, :) :oops: :hihi: :wink:
Crackbaby
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2856 posts since 10 Sep, 2003, from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden

Postby Crackbaby; Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:11 am

Oh... :) :oops: :hug:

Glad you didn't hear me wondering where the gate button was when i looked at the green/yellow/red leds :lol: Now i get it though! Very clever feature..!
Elektron Machinedrum Mk1 UW, Analog4, Octatrack
Soundcraft EFX12, Alesis 3630, Nanocompressor, Zoom G13, Tapco 3630
Gordon-Smith Gypsy, Yamaha THR10, P-80
M-Audio Delta 24/96 PCI
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Postby X2; Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:13 am

Crackbaby wrote:Oh... :) :oops: :hug:

Glad you didn't hear me wondering where the gate button was when i looked at the green/yellow/red leds :lol: Now i get it though! Very clever feature..!
:lol: :)
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