well, i for sure cant reach you from your site under "contact/send mail"..
"contact/forum @kvr" works fine. (tested with IE and FF)

i'm talking about the top of your page..

the question i'm really interested is:

i want to know from you how and when i will be compensated for the pre-order?

thank you
Last edited by murnau on Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:45 pm; edited 1 time in total

Wouldn't it be more honest then to say directly AFTER THE SUMMER SALE to your customers what's the case? You could have deleted the summer sale from your homepage, and you could have written: "Dear customers, sorry, I cannot finish Agonyx, if you want your money back, I'll compensate you..."

But disappearing suddenly, while your customers didn't know what happened with Agonyx, and then some month later coming back to say that Agonyx couldn't be finished -- that's obviously bad behaviour. That's like if you would be ordered as a gardener to dig up someone's garden, and then suddenly you would disappear because you've noticed that you cannot get enough money with it and there are nicer gardens anyway. Would you confide your garden to this gardener??

Well that's weird. I just tried it, and it works, send myself an email - got it 1 second later

Customers who pre-ordered Agonyx will get a fully licensed version of Shortnoise as a compensation.

EDIT: It's not, that i never delivered Agonyx. It was just that i couldn't keep my promise of delivering 400 additional presets for it. It was all about the presets in this case (it had 100 when i offered the $25 pre-order).
Last edited by sonicfire on Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:30 am; edited 1 time in total

You are *right*. And i apologize for this. But it's not that i've received tons of mails asking for the Development of Agonyx. Not even a single one. But since i know it's no good behaviour to "grab" some money and don't deliver promises, that's all i can offer currently ... i'm sure noone will be dissapointed.

I wonder if there's any terms and conditions for refunds for a pre-ordered product which did not get delivered. This all sounds kind of law free. I don't get the idea of pre-ordering a product anyway, what's the point? Don't get the point of offering your customers another product, which they probably don't even want, instead of refunding the money, also. Unless the money is short.

Is it so difficult to write a standardized email to your 15 customers of Agonyx explaining them the situation and the stop of further development? You wouldn't even had to write it on your homepage (if you're afraid about your reputation), but at least to your customers... That could be done in a few minutes...writing one email and sending them to your customers...

Of course, the impression is now, this guy grabs the money and disappears without delivering the finished goods...even if this impression wasn't intended by you. While I can understand your disappointment that there were only 15 customers -- what I cannot understand is your hide-and-reappear-game, because it wasn't the first time...

the price? just an idea..

hmmm.. 15 customers only.. come hell or high water - i dont know why you failed finally.. *sarcasm off*

Ok, let me re-phrase it then: What's the point in offering a pre-order? At least that's what i meant. Can only imagine that, with the money you earn in the pre-order, you finance the development in this case. Or get more people to buy the product, if, like you said the price is lower.

THIS is the main point - with the pre-order-income you can pay a good freelance programmer (but you need MANY customers). But in the case of Prodyon-Dennis, I'm sure that he programs everything himself, so it doesn't make much sense. Because if you aren't so trained in coding that you could solve most of all bugs, you cannot deliver the finished plugin and your reputation is getting worse and worse...

You're right, just realized that the contact button on the top doesn't work no more (and TBH i have no idea why!). Thanks!

So, Shortnoise is 99% done. Now it's about time to design & develop Factory programs.

Shortnoise Feature List:

3 Part/3 Oscillator ROM Sampler/Synth
192 Voice Polyphony (64 per Part)
Classic Amp, Filter and Modulation Envelope per Part
7 Filter Types per Part (incl. filter drive, vowel)
Subsynth and Noise-Generator
Syncable multi-waveform LFO per Part
Pitchbending with Stepping for weird effects
Velocity and Keysplit per Part
Insert-FX per Part: Equalizer,Lofi,Flanger,Stepgate & Autopan
2 x Phrase Arpeggiator with 2 Modes and Hold function
3 x Built-In 32 Step Sequencer with Humanise and Shuffle
Sequencer Pattern Load/Save
3 Global Quality Settings: Low,Eco & High (sinc8 Interpolation)
Global Reverb, Delay and Chorus Effect
Program browser with Category/Expansion Search
User savable Programs
Expandable
32 Bit Win VST (64 Bit works fine using jBridge)

Free for all plugin-for-life owners and customers who pre-ordered agonyx.
I'll keep you updated. Details will follow soon!
Last edited by sonicfire on Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:44 am; edited 3 times in total

The new browser.

Just have to clarify this: Agonyx *was* delivered and released. But "only" with around 100 Presets. At that time i decided to offer a pre-order. My goal was to deliver way more presets, but i couldn't keep up. The plugin itself works.

Yes, i do everything on my own (website, graphics, coding and designing).

Finally an audio demo: http://www.prodyon-virtual-gear.com/media/shortnoise_presets demo_1.mp3

Maybe you can guess the sounds from the browser's list?