Best for your new publication Rob

Short interview by T&S

http://blog.timespace.com/2012/12/rob-papens-secrets-of-subt ractive-synthesis-are-revealed-as-new-tutorial-package-final ly-arrives/

Hi,

I updated the homepage section: extras

http://www.robpapen.com/book-a-dvds-extras.html

Added is the Cameleon-5000 preset (which also can be used inside Alchemy)and the setup of the synthesizers.com System-22 modular synth.

What will follow are the presets used of Predator. But that is a big more work then expected

Best,
Rob

I'm trying to purchase it but beside the UK link nothing else is available for buying.
I'm in the US.

Should I go through timespace.com?

Anybody home?

Hello,

To USA customers we sell direct www.robpapen.com
Because of the shipment cost, we don't have it available in USA yet. Product weights 1.3kg / 46 ounce.

Shipped to USA the product cost Euro 79-- in total.

Regards,
Rob Papen

No problem. "It's worth its weight" as the saying goes
How can we arrange a USA purchase at that price?

Hi,

You can purchase. The default currency is Euro, but PayPal will convert it for you. I had many shipments to USA. You receive a tracking number. It only takes a bit longer now IMO because of the holiday season. It is send by PostNL (Dutch postal service).
In case of questions, just drop us a note

Rob

Great!
Thank you.

yep purchased when released and no problems receiving it all they way out in los angeles ca usa, really loving the book and dvd tutorials rob

Absolutely, [As proud owner of RP's Albino3 and Predator synths for some years. Thank you so much for these creative tool to Rob and Jon!] I am also quite curious about this. I have read the same volumes as you have through the years (and tacking onto the reading list, Howard Scarr's extremely educating synthesis guide for Access Virus). Speaking of that, I am one who also is looking for a good GENERAL advanced guide (versus specialised and biased around one particular synth) which kind of compares to a moderate mixture between the nearly over-abundance of information found within Synth Secrets and Scarr's Synthesis guide for Access. I don't understand why it is not a possibility to compile such a volume. Reading Scarr's synthesis guide I can see there is -definitely- a more advanced yet generally practical side to subtractive synthesis. Of course I completely understand what Rob says about learning up to a point and then allowing the imagination to take control HOWEVER we never cease to learn and there are some excellent tricks which can be done...for example with tricky LFO routing and modulations, recursive modulation, understanding of multi-stage envelopes, ring modulation, FM applications within subtractive synthesis, advanced voice tuning trickery and unison techniques, advanced tried and true modulation routings to make patches more alive etc. etc. I would love to see some master designer use these in very practical manner on a dvd and further demonstrate explain the process and thinking. Does the RP guide go into any of this sort of thing or does it remain on a very basic "this is the ADSR envelope and a LFO is a Low Frequency OSC that can't be heard beause it is so low and look it can move the frequency of another destination etc...? I do not get a good enough idea from watching the "Walkthrough" portions of each DVD.. I would like to see some MEAT of the training offered before I purchase the product. That being said, I like the walkthroughs. I thought it was nice eye candy but I really wish to further my knowledge with synthesis on a more moderate to advanced application level (as others wish to do as well I can suspect). So thanks for any info one of you DVD owners might provide regarding this and best of luck to Rob and his new release) Cheers!

@ snigelx

What a long post....

The book is compact and practical, although it has over 200 pages and 10hr to look at on DVD.

Made for starting synth players and intermediate. Even synth players that think 'I know everything' might find some interesting stuff. But they will not buy this most likely or do need it.

The way I teach subtractive I started already in 2001. This effective training (and more) is now inside this product. Many already did benefit from my training and hopefully many also from this book with DVDs

Rob

I don't mind taking a small chunk of time to post about something like this. I tend to not spend a lot of time online anymore in general but I definitely strongly desire to have such an instructional video/book offering for those of us semi-familiar to subtractive synthesis, like I described (I came here to discuss this matter because of the email I just received from RP, so not so random as one might expect ). There are tonnes of beginner tutorials and books out there IMO (dubstep wobble anyone?), compared to the amount of serious material one finds for the more advanced topics surrounding (or perhaps in-depth) subtractive synthesis techniques (or fm, wavetable, additive etc etc, for that matter). It seems guys into synthesis would rather try their own hand at re-formatting the basics. I have in fact been highly anticipating the release of your DVD for this very reason. I thought because of the extreme time and effort that went into this project that it would be a more in-depth view of subtractive synthesis. It should be known that I do not fault you if the offering does not go so deep. I am sure it was lots of fun to assemble and I am doubly sure it is a pleasure to watch (for all the good hands-on synth explanations), no matter one's adeptness with synthesis. It will definitely provide a nice springboard for folks wishing to jump into synthesis anew perhaps.

Yes, this extreme about of time is why I would personally desire a better preview of the more practical content than what is currently offered with the Walkthrough section of each DVD. It is a great price you offer for the package BUT still a lot of money to give at this time.


Also why I would like a better preview...to see why people like me (a serious synth dabbler, versus a know-it-all, would get money's worth out of the package.

No doubt that you have new and creative ways to elaborate on the foundations and explanations of how a synthesizer makes various common sounds. I am sure it will be a success with many. I was only curious about what to expect, from my previously stated perspective on synthesis.

Best!

The first 'user comments' drop in

http://www.robpapen.com/book-dvds-user-comments.html

Hi,

http://www.robpapen.com/book-a-dvds-extras.html

Uploaded the Predator presets, which are used on the DVDs.
Saved as banks.
The Predator-RE REFILL will follow after NAMM.

Best,
Rob