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I'm having a hard time finding a proper DJ scratching effect VST (For use in Ableton)

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4 posts since 21 Oct, 2012

Postby FoX KiLLa; Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:19 pm I'm having a hard time finding a proper DJ scratching effect VST (For use in Ableton)

First off, I just have a simple virtual turntable MIDI controller (a DJ-Tech VTT-101). I'm trying to play around with incorporating a virtual scratching sound in my playing.

I have looked into Sxratch and the DyScratch demo. I can't get Sxratch to work in Ableton for some reason and although DyScratch basically does what I am looking for but it doesn't work with a jog wheel. On top of that, it's a 3 yr old VST that costs $40. I'm not looking for anything complicated, just something that functions with my mini turntable and emulates that classic vinyl scratching sound when I turn the jog wheel back and forth and play with the crossfader. Maybe just load a small sound clip like DyScratch does that produces a scratching/stretching sound with it.

If nothing else, if there's anybody willing to develop a VST like this, I'd be 100% willing to help any way I can.
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Postby RunBeerRun; Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:27 pm

Image line Grossbeat or Melda MRhythmizer or whatever that clone was called do it, it seems to be modifying a delay time.
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Postby FoX KiLLa; Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:22 pm

Hrm, these appear to more like effects triggers from MIDI notes during the track. Although it sounds like what I am looking for it doesn't quite work for that.

I'm kind of at a loss for words to describe what I'm looking for anymore. The only thing I can say is I'm looking for something that can load a sound clip and creates the scratching effect as I move the jog wheel back and forth over the clip. Maybe use the slider for a kind of pitch or other similar modulation also. If that helps.

A lot of this is similar to how DyScratch functions, except it uses the C note to trigger the scratching sound. Also it appears to be velocity sensitive in regards to how the scratching/stretching sound is produced. I hope this helped describe more of what I am looking for.
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Postby NAD; Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:39 am

Download FL studio demo which generously lets you render without registering. Use Fruity Scratcher or--better yet--Wave Traveler. There's nothing like it.
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Postby tetsuneko; Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:55 am

And once you get your appetite going for scratching, give Ms Pinky a try. The package also includes a VST version. While it has some sticker drift in relative mode, it's very responsive otherwise, and you can even use 192kHz source files :D

You don't necessarily need a timecode vinyl/cd in order to use Pinky, you can also just load up the timecode audio file into a sampler of choice ;)
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Postby ezelkow1; Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:15 am

You can map the scratch wheel to the circle at the top left of grossbeat, this would let you use your wheel as a scratch effect
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Postby realmarco; Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:48 pm

Destroy FX's Turntablist

was bioroid's plugin

available on the Pc and Mac

i don't really use it cause i just basically use a sampler
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4 posts since 21 Oct, 2012

Postby FoX KiLLa; Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:03 pm

I am trying Gross Beat out again and for whatever reason I can simply not map the jog wheel to scratch wheel. Not sure what I'm missing here. I know the MIDI signal is CC 101 in Ableton. I know now that this has been pretty much what has been plaguing me this whole time with the different scratch VSTs. I know this is kind of going off from what I'm originally asking but I can't figure out anymore what I can do with this thing.

I don't know what anybody else thinks I can do, but thanks for showing me these things.

EDIT: Turntablist MIGHT be what I'm looking for, but I'm having a hard time setting it up in Ableton. I'll try and keep at it.
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Postby zerocrossing; Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:45 pm

I never found anything satisfying. I end up using a Numark Axis 9. Burn what I want onto a CD and I can scratch what ever I want. It would be nice if I could grab incoming audio as well, but you can't have everything.
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Postby awol9000; Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:44 am

Kinda funny no one has mentioned this, did you try Traktor? Or another DJ program would work.

Deckadance or Mixx (which is free).
4 posts since 21 Oct, 2012

Postby FoX KiLLa; Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:08 pm

Yeah, the deck came with an LE version of Deckadance. It just seems like such a hokey program to work with (which is what I get for buying a hokey DJ deck, I guess). Plus this version doesn't work as a VST in Ableton, so that kind of frustrates me there. I'm going to look into Traktor and Mixxx when I have the time. Mixxx does look interesting for a free program so let's see how that works out.

Thanks for the response there.

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