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KVRist
 
120 posts since 16 Feb, 2012

Postby G.hostLA; Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:01 pm I got a SSD for christmas and need help with transfering programs and OS from my HDD

Windows7 Laptop with a 500gb HDD, trying to make my SSD my primary boot device along with my programs such as FL and PT.
I do have an external HDD incase i need a transfer medium.
KVRist
 
31 posts since 5 Sep, 2012

Postby bensw; Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:07 am

Do you have a smaller C partition just for OS+programs or is everything in one big 500GB partition on the HDD?

In any case, you can do a backup of your Windows partition with something like Macrium Reflect to an external drive.
Then connect your SSD and restore that partition to it.
If there's more data on the original partition than there's space on the SSD it won't work, obviously. In that case you'd have to move some data from C to some other place before you do your system backup.
KVRian
 
1117 posts since 4 Nov, 2004, from Manchester
 

Postby Kaine; Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:47 am

http://superuser.com/questions/99211/fr ... hdd-to-ssd

Take note of the whole thread. The are comments half way down of settings that need invoking on a HD to SSD clone which should carry out.
KVRist
 
120 posts since 16 Feb, 2012

Postby G.hostLA; Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:13 am

The HDD is just one big partition.
but when i did a windows image back up thing it let me choose what to back up.
would i be able to use that windows image on the SSD?

and that link was great but now i dont know what program to try first.

P.S. i wont actaully be able to do this till christmas but my excitement is making me get ready.
KVRian
 
1117 posts since 4 Nov, 2004, from Manchester
 

Postby Kaine; Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:19 am

Probably isn't a help but I've used all 3 at various times and they can all do the job fairly well. In fact Parted Magic lives on my keychain for diagnostic emergencies and is an all around handy collection of app's.

I'd however probably recommend Clonezilla as its easy enough to set it up and the is a good start to finish guide on the website if you haven't done it before which should make things easier.
KVRist
 
120 posts since 16 Feb, 2012

Postby G.hostLA; Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:22 am

I deleted everything on my computer that i didnt need.
Im down to 140 gb of used space. would i be able to use clonezilla to clone my HDD to my SSD?
maybe i should of mentioned but i want to keep both disks as bootable.
Im going to make the SSD external with the OS and programs. and use my internal to store the stems to songs or my music if i ever start djing again.

i went off topic..
so will clonezilla allow me to clone to a smaller disk if the used space is still under my SSDs capacity?
KVRian
 
1117 posts since 4 Nov, 2004, from Manchester
 

Postby Kaine; Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:59 am

G.hostLA wrote:I deleted everything on my computer that i didnt need.
Im down to 140 gb of used space. would i be able to use clonezilla to clone my HDD to my SSD?


Yeah, it'll create a partition on the new drive the same size as the one being copied across. You can always then expand this to whatever size you want on the new disk once you've completed the clone via computer managemnet (in control panel).

G.hostLA wrote:maybe i should of mentioned but i want to keep both disks as bootable.
Im going to make the SSD external with the OS and programs. and use my internal to store the stems to songs or my music if i ever start djing again.


You going to be swapping boot order in the bios then? How are you connecting this new drive externally?

G.hostLA wrote:i went off topic..
so will clonezilla allow me to clone to a smaller disk if the used space is still under my SSDs capacity?


Yeah, it may need the MBR changing a bit to allow for it after the clone but it should be covered in the links of that thread up above.
KVRist
 
120 posts since 16 Feb, 2012

Postby G.hostLA; Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:32 am

But if my partition it will be bigger then the destination drive.
can i make the partition smaller?
Kaine wrote:
G.hostLA wrote:maybe i should of mentioned but i want to keep both disks as bootable.
Im going to make the SSD external with the OS and programs. and use my internal to store the stems to songs or my music if i ever start djing again.


You going to be swapping boot order in the bios then? How are you connecting this new drive externally?

I was going to connect it with a sata adapter with usb/esata connections.
But i decided to do it internal now.
Kaine wrote:
G.hostLA wrote:i went off topic..
so will clonezilla allow me to clone to a smaller disk if the used space is still under my SSDs capacity?


Yeah, it may need the MBR changing a bit to allow for it after the clone but it should be covered in the links of that thread up above.


I think im going with paragon since it lists that i can shrink the partition to the size of used size. ill post with an update on christmas day if it works.
KVRist
 
120 posts since 16 Feb, 2012

Postby G.hostLA; Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:30 pm

So i still cant make the C parttition smaller on my HDD but with easeUS partition i was able to copy C to an external HDD and then shrink it.
I'm guessing i should be able to swap my internal HDD with the SSD and then run a bootable cd from clonezilla to copy the partition from my external HDD to the SSD.
A few question have arose though and i cant find the answer for them.

first is do i need to copy the hidden partiotion called system off my HDD?
secondly is having the same drive letter for partition such as C(the boot partition) going to cause problems between my HDD and SSD?
KVRian
 
1117 posts since 4 Nov, 2004, from Manchester
 

Postby Kaine; Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:36 am

G.hostLA wrote:first is do i need to copy the hidden partiotion called system off my HDD?


Yeah, it's there for security reasons, but it also has bits of the MBR linked to it which you need to boot windows. It's possible to jiggle stuff about and move MBR stuff into the main partition and in that case you can lose it althrough it's a bit of messing about.

https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&safe=of ... 73&bih=820

G.hostLA wrote:secondly is having the same drive letter for partition such as C(the boot partition) going to cause problems between my HDD and SSD?


Nah, Windows 7 calls whatever OS it is in at the time C:/ regardless. If both are attached it'll flip each drive between C & D (for example) depending which you boot into.
KVRist
 
120 posts since 16 Feb, 2012

Postby G.hostLA; Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:23 am

i copied both partitions of my original HDD into my SSD. system and C
however my computer calls the system partition c and the actual c partition d.
I've run my system recovery disk and also used command prompt to remove and assign drive letters.
still my computer forgets and won't boot up because the drive letters are wrong.
KVRist
 
31 posts since 5 Sep, 2012

Postby bensw; Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:21 am

That's one of the reasons I tend to install Windows without the System Reserved partition.

I don't know your exact current situation and what you used to copy the partitions, maybe you're just missing an 'active' flag on the System Reserved partition. That might be fixable with diskpart (command line from the Win7 install DVD/USB) or a 3rd party tool like Partition Wizard (there's a free version as well).

Anyway, something like Macrium Reflect which I mentioned earlier should handle the backup and restore to SSD process on its own. I'd get the free version, make a bootable Windows PE CD/USB and do everything from there.
KVRist
 
120 posts since 16 Feb, 2012

Postby G.hostLA; Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:46 pm

I can't use CMD because the ssd doesn't remember the settings i apply.
and i can't just back up and restore because i can't shrink the c partition due to unmovable files.
KVRian
 
1117 posts since 4 Nov, 2004, from Manchester
 

Postby Kaine; Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:43 am

Hmmm... are you doing a clone or a copy? A bit by bit clone shouldn't change the drive letters around.
KVRist
 
120 posts since 16 Feb, 2012

Postby G.hostLA; Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:08 am

I just want to do a fresh install of Windows7 now.
this whole process has taken alot longer then i wanted.

I found an iso of windows 7 installation. I am alittle worried about installing an ISO not from windows/microsoft, but the microsoft website hasnt really helped.
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