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by Ustun; Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:38 pm
I know that this is a verry basic question but when you don't know it it becomes a bit complicated I have a Presonus Firebox which is now more then 10 years old and working perfecly. I just want to know that if I buy a new audio interface - A MOTU 828 mk3 hybrid is in my mind - will there be anything different on the recording aspect and what will it be? I produced with virtual instruments generally and I'm a newbie in recording and I just don't know this little detail
by CapnLockheed; Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:40 pm
by Vaylos; Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:22 am
The only thing you'll gain from the MOTU is maybe better DAC chips or (possibly) marginally better preamps which at that price range would only be a very subjective improvement. And if you're primarily using virtual instruments rather than recording mic'ed sound sources, you probably don't care much about the mic preamps. And at those prices, well, it's not so much about the flavor or sound of the preamps as it is making sure you've got decent clean gain.
I've had an Echo Audiofire 4 for about 6 years now, and it still gets used despite having a Mackie Onyx 1620i firewire mixer. (I primarily got the mixer for recording live gigs) The Echo gets used for smaller stuff, and at home or with the laptop.
So yeah, whatever budget you have for the MOTU, I'd put it towards something that will have a larger effect on the quality of your work, be it a better software synth or effects plugins, maybe a hardware synth you've been eyeballing, upgrade the monitors (again potentially only marginally better at the $750/pr level) or acoustic treatments for the room, etc. etc.
by Ustun; Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:36 am
I do agree with you both either. And my Firebox do work really well and I really like it. But unfortunately I'm having some compatibility issues with it with my new Macbook Pro - I guess, I hope-. The audio just get muted from time to time when I work with DAW's - Logic and Live - and last month I experienced a live performance with Ableton Live with around 20 mutes, I disabled - enabled the audio engine to get back the audio as I do as a solution but as you can imagine the performance was really awful and I was verrry upset with it then with that rage I decided to buy a new audio interface. I know that it is really pricey but I could not find a better deal with the input-output number that has a Firewire 800 port. I just don't want to convert anything to anything different since I'm using a Firewire 800 laptop right now.
I'd like to spend this money to a hardware synth to actually, I totally agree.
If you have any other opinions about the issue or about the interface then I'd like to hear it too.
Thanks for the replies!
by Vaylos; Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:11 pm
I'm not as familiar with the mackbooks, so can yours take an external card? Like getting an external firewire card to plug in and use that instead of the Macbook's internal firewire chipset? Firewire cards, even the TI-based cards are pretty well dirt cheap, and that might be a solution to consider.
FWIW I think current macbooks use Agere chipsets for the internal firewire ports? I don't know if they have express slots or the ability to insert external firewire cards. And I don't know if the card reader would be separate from the Agere chipset. Maybe a macbook guru can chime in and answer whether or not the card reader uses a separate chipset than the Agere? Or if it can even take an external card?
Otherwise, if you need a USB audio interface, well, I'd consider staying on the cheap end and try to get the same functionality that you have currently. Maybe one of the Presonus Audioboxes would work, or one of the Focusrite Scarlett interfaces? It kinda depends on how many ins and outs you really need. I know the cheap 2i/2o audiobox only has the two front inputs and the 2 outputs on the back. And the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 is similar in that regard.
The next steps up if you need the extra inputs or outputs might be the AudioBox 44VSL which has 4 in on the front, and 4 out + main outs and headphones on the back. Or possibly the Scarlett 8i6. Both those are $250.
Anyway, considering a cheap external Texas-Instruments firewire express card for your macbook pro might be something worth looking into. But I'm not 100% sure on that because I don't know how the card readers are integrated.